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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Would love for someone to point out ONE way that I am responsible to anyone but myself.
    I would suspect the more liberal members here would say you are responsible by proxy and by law. You're tax money goes to support those who are less fortunate by fiat. You may not be PERSONALLY responsible for anyone but yourself by choice, but by proxy you do support all the welfare, all the entitlements all the bad ideas and policies and bad laws that this country has implemented since it began and will continue to do so until you either denounce and leave or die.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So your plan is to just wish things were the way you wanted them to be for you personally? Good plan! LOL!
    For the most part, things are the way I want them to be, personally. So you're right. It is a good plan.
    If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I would suspect the more liberal members here would say you are responsible by proxy and by law. You're tax money goes to support those who are less fortunate by fiat. You may not be PERSONALLY responsible for anyone but yourself by choice, but by proxy you do support all the welfare, all the entitlements all the bad ideas and policies and bad laws that this country has implemented since it began and will continue to do so until you either denounce and leave or die.
    That doesn't mean I'm responsible for them. It just means the gov is in the business of making people think that they can't make it on their own and thus try to make people like me feel guilty.
    If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Private schooling is great for those who can afford it. I wouldn't necessarily abolish it, as long as everyone has access to free school I don't see why wealthy families couldn't pay the money to send their kids to private schools.
    Private schooling is expensive because of how it is treated by society.

    Likewise with health care, as long as everyone has access to free care, I don't see why wealthy patients couldn't pay for private care.
    Its not free. I pay for it. Its better to create a system where everyone can afford care than to claim that possibility doesn't exist so you force others to pay for what someone else needs for themselves.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Rough Rider View Post
    Libertarians believe every man is an island.
    You are competely useless in this thread, you know. Say something with some truth behind it or leave.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    For the most part, things are the way I want them to be, personally. So you're right. It is a good plan.

    You seem to do a lot of bitchin' and moaning for someone who thinks things couldn't be any better. Regardless though, I am glad you are happy to have only fractional support for your positions!
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You seem to do a lot of bitchin' and moaning for someone who thinks things couldn't be any better. Regardless though, I am glad you are happy to have only fractional support for your positions, I am happy about that too!
    My fractional support is still more support than you have for your positions.

    I only bitch because people like you think I owe them something.
    If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Most likely you and I are polar opposites on the political spectrum. And the funny thing is that I agree since I too believe in responsibility and I think people should take care of themselves.

    I also think people should eat right, exercise, go to bed early, stay in shape, get educated, be frugal, only have kids when you are ready for them and them love them with all your heart body and soul, be constructive members of the community, and all those other things that make for a rather conservative lifestyle.

    I also realize that I am not GOD and cannot make all those things reality.
    Except you would use government to force people to eat what you want and not eat what you don't in form of taxes and bans.

    As libertarians we don't try to make any of those things a reality. We let people do what they want with all that stuff. We merely promote a system to allow it happen if a need and want exists.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    That doesn't mean I'm responsible for them. It just means the gov is in the business of making people think that they can't make it on their own and thus try to make people like me feel guilty.
    You're economically responsible and forced to pay however the politicians and legal system say. It's the follow the money scenario - what part of your income taxes, fees, state taxes, property taxes are diverted to give support to policies? You really have no choice other than maybe becoming a homeless person or joining a Buddhist Monastery where you have no possessions, no job and nothing to pay. Totally fall off the grid and then you are only responsible for yourself.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You're economically responsible and forced to pay however the politicians and legal system say. It's the follow the money scenario - what part of your income taxes, fees, state taxes, property taxes are diverted to give support to policies? You really have no choice other than maybe becoming a homeless person or joining a Buddhist Monastery where you have no possessions, no job and nothing to pay. Totally fall off the grid and then you are only responsible for yourself.
    On this term I will agree.
    If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

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