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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
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    Some of us would have no problem with that. If you can't find a job that provides insurance at age 30, maybe you should just "go away".

    That wasnt the question....it was a 30 yr old that didnt want to pay for insurance who had a good job....

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    Competent adults should be able to decide whether they want insurance. Obviously this means also accepting the possible outcomes of that decision.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post

    So what would the Tea Party's position be on this? Base on their rhetoric so far, I think that they agree with the ones that shouted, they just didn't have the balls to stand up with them.
    I think that was a rather poor example by Blitzer. Instead of giving an example of where someone willfully chooses not to have health insurance because they feel they're healthy and don't need it, he should have painted a picture of someone who honestly can't afford it and then become gravely ill.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I think that was a rather poor example by Blitzer. Instead of giving an example of where someone willfully chooses not to have health insurance because they feel they're healthy and don't need it, he should have painted a picture of someone who honestly can't afford it and then become gravely ill.
    I your example is good, however the mandate portion of Obamacare is meant to catch people like Blitzer's example.


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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    They didn't really chant let him die, did they. Nice try though. Secondly, they guy should've had health insurance. Why should we have to pay for his lack of responsibility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is an indication how radical and far right the Tea Party is.

    Yeah but with the amount of insensitive, demeaning, sexist, or other bigoted statements liberals have made, I still would not be idiotic enough to attach that to the whole of the mindset. Well, some would, just as others have been more than willing to do so with conservatives around here in the past. I still think it idiotic.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    They didn't really chant let him die, did they. Nice try though. Secondly, they guy should've had health insurance. Why should we have to pay for his lack of responsibility?
    We shouldn't have to pay for it. Unfortunately, unless you put Charles Manson in charge of hospital admitting, we will pay for it because no one other than a total sociopath would let someone die rather than providing them with life saving treatment.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    I have yet to hear anything from a Tea Partier that contradicts my conclusion that the main requirement for being a Tea Partier is simply to be a selfish prick. All of their policies are selfish. All of their rhetoric is selfish. These people want everything to be about them. I have no respect for people with the social graces of a five year old.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    "who is going to pay for it if he goes into a coma?"

    IMO comatose patients probably have a hard time paying their bills whether they have a insurance policy or not.

    If I have insurance that I pay for out of pocket and I should slip into a coma, I am guessing that my insurer will not keep paying my bills seeing how I would no longer be able to pay my premiums due to my inability to write checks etc.

    It is my understanding that if I cant/don't pay my premiums my insurance simply goes away(please correct me if I am wrong).

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by mattillac View Post
    "who is going to pay for it if he goes into a coma?"

    IMO comatose patients probably have a hard time paying their bills whether they have a insurance policy or not.

    If I have insurance that I pay for out of pocket and I should slip into a coma, I am guessing that my insurer will not keep paying my bills seeing how I would no longer be able to pay my premiums due to my inability to write checks etc.

    It is my understanding that if I cant/don't pay my premiums my insurance simply goes away(please correct me if I am wrong).
    More than likely in such a scenario one or more of the following would occur:

    1. Someone in your family would be granted power of attorney and would either make your insurance payments themselves, or pay them out of your estate.

    2. If your employer offers long term disability insurance, your health insurance premiums would be paid out of it.

    3. In the event that your insurance was dropped due to your losing your employment, or non-payment, the hospital would apply for temporary Medicaid coverage for you so that the hospital continues to get paid for your care. Assuming you did not have a large amount of assets, you would get temporary Medicaid coverage since you would have no income, and your care would paid for that way.

    4. If you had a lot of assets, the hospital would petition whoever was given power of attorney over your estate to pay for your care out of those assets.

    Many people who need long term expensive care, especially cancer patients, end up on temporary Medicaid coverage because they lose their insurance due to the inability to work while sick. God knows what our cancer death rate would be in America if we did not have Medicaid. A lot of people believe they would never end up on Medicaid, but if you get a type of cancer with a poor prognosis before you reach Medicare eligibility age, more than likely unless you are independently wealthy, you will end up on Medicaid.
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