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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Rough Rider View Post
    What a load of manure.
    As if charitable donations could even begin to fill the gaps in this nation's horrendous health care system. Hilarious.
    As if it's the entire solution.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    You keep using the word "force". It's not a matter of forcing you to pay for someone's health care, it's a matter of deciding where to spend the tax money that you're already paying. Besides, you're already paying for expensive health care programs like medicare anyway.

    It's a strange argument. "Socialism won't work because people naturally don't want to share. Charity will work because people will naturally share"
    Well, then let's specify that unselfish, good people will share while selfish, bad people won't. Fortunately, there are more good and generous people in the world than there are bad ones.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Income is kind of irrelevant. You can earn $500k a year and have $499.9k in total expenses. Where could you possibly get a good insurance plan for $100 a year? It has to do with how much disposable income you have.
    The GOP National Committee should change their emblem from an elephant to a condom. A condom stands up to inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects pricks, and gives one a sense of security and safety while screwing others.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It has to do with wanting tax dollars going to you, not for services for other people. Its about using tax dollars to promote the protection of rights and liberties, not general services.
    Are you kidding? I want universal healthcare for everyone because I secretly want free health care for myself? I am insured and I'm currently pumping money into the pockets of the private insurance companies that I'm dependent on. I pay taxes, and I want my tax dollars going to public health care. I haven't used my insurance in years, but I pay taxes every year.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    As if it's the entire solution.
    I have no doubt that's the entire solution for Libertarians(and other GOP refugees).
    Thats because Libertarian ideas spring primarily from the "I've got mine, so everyone else can just go **** themselves." school of philosophy.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    You keep using the word "force". It's not a matter of forcing you to pay for someone's health care, it's a matter of deciding where to spend the tax money that you're already paying. Besides, you're already paying for expensive health care programs like medicare anyway.

    It's a strange argument. "Socialism won't work because people naturally don't want to share. Charity will work because people will naturally share"
    Never used that argument. IMO socialism won't work because people don't like being forced to do things. Charity does work because people are naturally charitable people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snevert View Post
    Income is kind of irrelevant. You can earn $500k a year and have $499.9k in total expenses. Where could you possibly get a good insurance plan for $100 a year? It has to do with how much disposable income you have.
    The average person making $500k/year probably has more disposable income (on average) than the average person making 20k/yr. I haven't ran the numbers, that'd just be my guess, though.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Are you kidding? I want universal healthcare for everyone because I secretly want free health care for myself? I am insured and I'm currently pumping money into the pockets of the private insurance companies that I'm dependent on. I pay taxes, and I want my tax dollars going to public health care. I haven't used my insurance in years, but I pay taxes every year.
    I wasn't talking about you. I'm talking about the general idea. Its not about protection of rights and liberties, its about services for people that they couldn't otherwise afford. Its a system designed for the few while forcing everyone else to be part in either the form of tax money they see no return on(medicare) or forcing them on a system with tax payer money they don't need(UHC)

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    The average person making $500k/year probably has a more disposable income than the average person making 20k/yr. I haven't ran the numbers, that'd just be my guess, though.
    Yes, very true. The keyword here is probably. What I'm getting at is if Bob makes $500k and has $499.9k in expenses, and his neighbor Ted makes $100k but only has $50k in expenses, Ted has more disposable income percentage-wise (and in this case, literally). Income doesn't really matter, what does matter is the amount of expenses you have relative to your income. Ted here could afford an awesome health insurance plan compared to Bob who earns 5 times more money than he does.
    The GOP National Committee should change their emblem from an elephant to a condom. A condom stands up to inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects pricks, and gives one a sense of security and safety while screwing others.

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Snevert View Post
    Yes, very true. The keyword here is probably. What I'm getting at is if Bob makes $500k and has $499.9k in expenses, and his neighbor Ted makes $100k but only has $50k in expenses, Ted has more disposable income percentage-wise (and in this case, literally). Income doesn't really matter, what does matter is the amount of expenses you have relative to your income. Ted here could afford an awesome health insurance plan compared to Bob who earns 5 times more money than he does.
    Its sounds like you support a system not designed to be one sized fits all. I like!

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