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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    Would people choose to pay for the army, police force or firefighters if it weren't mandated?

    Why do people argue that those can be mandated (without any choices to the quality you get ect), and say that in no way should healthcare be mandated (even though you'd have some choices here)?

    Aren't these both protection mechanisms for both the individual and society as a whole (police & healthcare)?
    There you go again, being all logical!
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let's see.............



    Oh yeah.............that is where I got that.

    BTW, you are aware that the insurance mandate was a Republican plan as an alternative to UHC that the rest of the industrialize world has, right?
    You say that like I care. Last time I checked, my lean was Libertarian.
    And no, people should not be forced to have health insurance. They should just be responsible enough to have it on their own accord or accept the consequences.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Heh. Cute.
    Are liberals this closed minded? So far, all signs point to yes.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Are liberals this closed minded? So far, all signs point to yes.
    Are conservatives this condescending and generalizing?
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I suggest that you can't let someone die and others suggest "it's not their problem", and you accuse me of not showing compassion?

    Black is white, up is down, in is out.
    Its not my problem if they get care. Deal with that fact! What you suggest is a program that I pay for their care and the government gets to control the care. What I suggest is a system where you pay for your care in a competitive market where you can actually shop for the lowest cost for you care. Where the care is first hand between you and the doctor and where care isn't a one sized fits all shoe where it assumes everyone can afford a Ferrari.

    How ironic that so many on the right cling to their Christianity when convenient.

    What would Christ do?
    What would Christ do? I don't really care what Christ would do, I'm not religious, but if I had to guess I would say he would support private charity and condemn forced charity, he would support responsibility and condemn dependency. But hey, if you actually think Jesus supported government and force be my guest.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Its not my problem if they get care. Deal with that fact! What you suggest is a program that I pay for their care and the government gets to control the care. What I suggest is a system where you pay for your care in a competitive market where you can actually shop for the lowest cost for you care. Where the care is first hand between you and the doctor and where care isn't a one sized fits all shoe where it assumes everyone can afford a Ferrari.



    What would Christ do? I don't really care what Christ would do, I'm not religious, but if I had to guess I would say he would support private charity and condemn forced charity, he would support responsibility and condemn dependency. But hey, if you actually think Jesus supported government and force be my guest.
    It doesn't matter that you're not religious, because he says you're still religious anyway.
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Thats what makes Ron Pauls impractical and undoable in todays socieity...Ill say this again Ron Paul thinking is in the past 40 yrs ago
    You have no idea what Ron Paul said, do you?

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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    You say that like I care. Last time I checked, my lean was Libertarian.
    And no, people should not be forced to have health insurance. They should just be responsible enough to have it on their own accord or accept the consequences.
    By dying? That is your solution to the health care crisis?
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    By dying? That is your solution to the health care crisis?
    No, by paying the bill himself.

    Damn, how many times do I have to say that to get it through peoples thick skulls?
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    Re: Tea Party Crowd Yells Let Him Die

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    No, by paying the bill himself.

    Damn, how many times do I have to say that to get it through peoples thick skulls?
    I don't know, why not ask Ron Paul's uninsured 2008 campaign manager? I know why, because he's dead.

    Paul's 2008 campaign manager, Kent Snyder, went through a strikingly similar experience to Blitzer's hypothetical one, dying of complications from viral pneumonia just two weeks after Paul ended his presidential bid. Snyder was uninsured, so family and friends were forced to raise funds to cover his $400,000 in medical bills. Their efforts included setting up a website soliciting contributions from Paul supporters
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