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    What do you make of this "history" of events preceding 9/11 and its continuing legacy? Why would any group not want to reveal this information? If the gov't shuts down a group that accurately assessed a terrorist event before it occurred, how could it possibly organize to prevent such events going forward? Is it just bureaucracy run amok or more sinister?

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
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    What do you make of this "history" of events preceding 9/11 and its continuing legacy? Why would any group not want to reveal this information? If the gov't shuts down a group that accurately assessed a terrorist event before it occurred, how could it possibly organize to prevent such events going forward? Is it just bureaucracy run amok or more sinister?
    I think the problem you run into is that unless you know who and how, it's hard to stop. For example, with 9/11, it probably didn't take much imagination to think that the WTC and the Pentagon were potential targets. But you'd have to know that the plan was to hijack planes and use them as missiles. Then you'd either have to know which planes, or shut down all air traffic.

    The simple fact is, we're vulnerable. Which only puts us in the same boat as everyone else on the planet. The Israelis have very good counter-terrorism, but attacks still manage to happen. It's just the way it is.


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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I think the problem you run into is that unless you know who and how, it's hard to stop. For example, with 9/11, it probably didn't take much imagination to think that the WTC and the Pentagon were potential targets. But you'd have to know that the plan was to hijack planes and use them as missiles. Then you'd either have to know which planes, or shut down all air traffic.

    The simple fact is, we're vulnerable. Which only puts us in the same boat as everyone else on the planet. The Israelis have very good counter-terrorism, but attacks still manage to happen. It's just the way it is.
    Nevertheless, why would you shutter an agency that correctly identified the perp and the targets accurately? Seems like giving it better funding or more credibility would be the more viable scenarios. Does it mean "kill the messenger" or what?

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    If anything, too many agencies doing too many things obscured the nature of the plot until it happened. There was too little information sharing; it's just like the three blind men and the elephant.
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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    We have a bit of hindsight problem here. Knowing what we know, yeah we should have been ready for it. But at the time, did the angencies share information, did they know how, did anyone really thing some one would have the balls to attack us?
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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Nevertheless, why would you shutter an agency that correctly identified the perp and the targets accurately? Seems like giving it better funding or more credibility would be the more viable scenarios. Does it mean "kill the messenger" or what?
    I think that Bush and Clinton both ignored a lot of information which could have prevented the attacks. A lot of people like to put this all on Bush, but don't forget that Clinton could have had bin Laden right here in the US, but didn't because he refused to cough up the price of a plane ticket.
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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Hindsight is always 20-20.

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Hindsight is always 20-20.
    True, but it can help to suggest what needs to be done. I think it showed we had to have agencies talk to one another.

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    I've done quit a bit of research into this, and what I have found, is that we (hopefully for our sake it has gotten better) really lacked in sharing information about who knew what with other agencies.
    I agree with the other posters here, in hindsight you can always look back and mistakes made become far more glaring.

    When you look back at the intel we were getting in the last few months leading up to 9/11 it would have been impossible to to cover them all, threats and possible sites of attacks were all over our country, and the world.

    I have to agree with Rocket 88, we were, are, and will remain vulnerable, while at the same time taking every available reasonable precaution that we can. In my opinion our only real defense is the retaliation that is taken afterwards. It need to be severe enough to discourage others from daring to attack us again.

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I've done quit a bit of research into this, and what I have found, is that we (hopefully for our sake it has gotten better) really lacked in sharing information about who knew what with other agencies.
    I agree with the other posters here, in hindsight you can always look back and mistakes made become far more glaring.

    When you look back at the intel we were getting in the last few months leading up to 9/11 it would have been impossible to to cover them all, threats and possible sites of attacks were all over our country, and the world.

    I have to agree with Rocket 88, we were, are, and will remain vulnerable, while at the same time taking every available reasonable precaution that we can. In my opinion our only real defense is the retaliation that is taken afterwards. It need to be severe enough to discourage others from daring to attack us again.
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