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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    An inside job?

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    We have a bit of hindsight problem here. Knowing what we know, yeah we should have been ready for it. But at the time, did the angencies share information, did they know how, did anyone really thing some one would have the balls to attack us?
    The correction of the poor communication between the various intelligence communities is the ONE thing they got right after 9-11.

    For me, unanswered questions still make the whole thing stink of LIHOP to me, but the dysfunction in our intelligence systems could answer my concerns without resorting to conspiracy theory. The right hand wasn't ALLOWED to know what the left hand was doing, so its perfectly reasonable that that led to the errors that allowed it to occur.
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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    True, but it can help to suggest what needs to be done. I think it showed we had to have agencies talk to one another.
    I have no desire to discuss any this conspiracy stuff but I will note that it was stupid to place the person who decided that agencies couldn't discuss things with each other be a part of the panel that investigated what went wrong.

    It's amazing how many times we allow the fox determine why the chickens are missing.

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Most Likely Buildings to Be Attacked" | Truthout

    What do you make of this "history" of events preceding 9/11 and its continuing legacy? Why would any group not want to reveal this information? If the gov't shuts down a group that accurately assessed a terrorist event before it occurred, how could it possibly organize to prevent such events going forward? Is it just bureaucracy run amok or more sinister?
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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I have no desire to discuss any this conspiracy stuff but I will note that it was stupid to place the person who decided that agencies couldn't discuss things with each other be a part of the panel that investigated what went wrong.

    It's amazing how many times we allow the fox determine why the chickens are missing.
    Entirely too often.

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by dixiesolutions View Post
    What.?...Do you believe everything you read.?
    Do you believe everything you say?

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by dixiesolutions View Post
    What.?...Do you believe everything you read.?
    Actually, everyone believes everything they read, AS THEY READ IT. It goes straight past our "filters" and has to be corrected afterwards. Usually as it is incorporated into our larger knowledge base. But if you distract someone just after they read something, whatever they just read ends up in the "true" column by default. And can end up "permanently" "true" if not thought about before it ends up in longer term memory.

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Actually, everyone believes everything they read, AS THEY READ IT. It goes straight past our "filters" and has to be corrected afterwards. Usually as it is incorporated into our larger knowledge base. But if you distract someone just after they read something, whatever they just read ends up in the "true" column by default. And can end up "permanently" "true" if not thought about before it ends up in longer term memory.

    Your Cognitive Linguistics lesson for the day!
    What about hearing? I'm considering this in light of speech pathology (and basic cognitive stuff).

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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    The correction of the poor communication between the various intelligence communities is the ONE thing they got right after 9-11.
    Oh I agree, that is the one good thing that came out of it. It still doesn't change the fact that we have a hindsight problem whenever we look at it. Should they have been sharing information? Yes. But that doesn't change the fact that we can't say we should have been able to stop it.
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    Re: A Year Before 9/11, Intelligence Unit Determined World Trade Center, Pentagon "Mo

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I have to agree with Rocket 88, we were, are, and will remain vulnerable, while at the same time taking every available reasonable precaution that we can. In my opinion our only real defense is the retaliation that is taken afterwards. It need to be severe enough to discourage others from daring to attack us again.
    Against who? Does it really deter those who did it (and are dead) to attack those who were not involved? If this kind of thinking had merit, Palistine would have long ago left Israel alone. When the British final made head way with their terrorist problem, it wasn't by having more severe retaliation, but by getting co-operation and actually getting the right people and not just any people.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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