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Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

1Perry said:
Perry is ahead of Obama in the polls.
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Yup - and Hillary would be president today if they were right the summer of the year before the actual election.
 
Didn't the "insiders" back McCain in 2008? Dole in 96? I don't much have faith in the "insiders".
 
I'd personally prefer Huntsman, but he won't have much of the GOP support base, given that he worked for Obama once, and he's too moderate on many issues.
However, given over the prominent GOP candidates, I have to agree that Romney would be the best. He appeals to the GOP if he wins the nomination, appeals to the moderates, and appeals to the anti-Obama Democrats.
 
Proud South Korean said:
I'd personally prefer Huntsman, but he won't have much of the GOP support base, given that he worked for Obama once, and he's too moderate on many issues.
However, given over the prominent GOP candidates, I have to agree that Romney would be the best. He appeals to the GOP if he wins the nomination, appeals to the moderates, and appeals to the anti-Obama Democrats.
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Romney does not appeal to the the Tea Party, and he does not appeal to anyone who cares about authenticity.

I would never support Romney and I prefer Huntsman as well.
 
Instead of having cnn do the next gop debate, maybe we should put Rommey and Perry on American Idol. Then have the winner face off against Obama.

(No, im not kidding)
 
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lpast said:
I find this surprising...considering all the banter from the right that Romney is a Rino
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nah, it's "insiders". who assume that the base will always do what their told.

Oops! there's a tea party movement. guess those insiders weren't so bright after all.
 
Camlon said:
Romney does not appeal to the the Tea Party, and he does not appeal to anyone who cares about authenticity.

I would never support Romney and I prefer Huntsman as well.
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If he wins the nomination, then the Tea Party will be forced to support him. It's either Romney or Obama
 
Proud South Korean said:
If he wins the nomination, then the Tea Party will be forced to support him. It's either Romney or Obama
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No, they don't. Some of them will vote for Romney, but other will vote for the libertarians, or not vote at all.

Sixty percent of Republicans support the Tea Party movement. That includes a lot of people who may not vote. If Romney becomes the Republican candidate, they may stay home.
 
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Proud South Korean said:
If he wins the nomination, then the Tea Party will be forced to support him. It's either Romney or Obama
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I've pointed this out many times. They did not come out in support of McCain. There are people with principles.
 
Camlon said:
No, they don't. Some of them will vote for Romney, but other will vote for the libertarians, or not vote at all.

Sixty percent of Republicans support the Tea Party movement. That includes a lot of people who may not vote. If Romney becomes the Republican candidate, they may stay home.
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Or, they could run a third candidate, thus ensuring a second term for Obama. Are they foolish enough to do so? could be.
 
Romney just oozes slimy politician and just reminds me of a John Kerry type candidate. I'm really not fond of Perry, but I'd rather see him get the nod over Romney at this point. Sadly its shaping up that this election is going to be a choice between someone I don't like at all and someone I REALLY don't like.
 
Proud South Korean said:
If he wins the nomination, then the Tea Party will be forced to support him. It's either Romney or Obama
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Its not whether they'll support him or not; its how fervantly. What's their turnout, what's their word of mouth enthusiasm, what's their donation efforts, etc. Its not like they'll run to Obama, but they'll not be nearly as energized.
 
Proud South Korean said:
I'd personally prefer Huntsman, but he won't have much of the GOP support base, given that he worked for Obama once, and he's too moderate on many issues.
However, given over the prominent GOP candidates, I have to agree that Romney would be the best. He appeals to the GOP if he wins the nomination, appeals to the moderates, and appeals to the anti-Obama Democrats.
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I still think Huntsman would fare best in a national battle with Obama, but it would require him to actually get some momentum in the Primaries which just doesn't seem like it'll happen. He's fiscally sound enough to be able to have a chance to excite the Tea Party base in ways that Romeny can't. He's pro-life to help with the social conservatives but moderate on the environment and same sex marriage to appeal to moderates and moderate liberals. He's got a proven track record on jobs and economic growth to contrast to Obama and appeal to all sides. He's served in the Obama white house making criticizing him as an "extremist" massively difficult, but also served under the Reagan and Bush white houses making claims he's not a "real republican" not be as strong. He doesn't have the baggage of national perception that Romney has.

I think he'd give Obama a FAR better fight than Romney, but I just don't think he'll get to that point.
 
Zyphlin said:
I still think Huntsman would fare best in a national battle with Obama, but it would require him to actually get some momentum in the Primaries which just doesn't seem like it'll happen. He's fiscally sound enough to be able to have a chance to excite the Tea Party base in ways that Romeny can't. He's pro-life to help with the social conservatives but moderate on the environment and same sex marriage to appeal to moderates and moderate liberals. He's got a proven track record on jobs and economic growth to contrast to Obama and appeal to all sides. He's served in the Obama white house making criticizing him as an "extremist" massively difficult, but also served under the Reagan and Bush white houses making claims he's not a "real republican" not be as strong. He doesn't have the baggage of national perception that Romney has.

I think he'd give Obama a FAR better fight than Romney, but I just don't think he'll get to that point.
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Agree, Huntsman would certainly be a better pick. Not just because he probably would win the election, but because he won't be hated by democrats and many independents. What US needs are problem solvers, not people who divide the country like Obama and Perry. Perry will have a hard time getting anything through congress, because Democrats will always vote against him. Sorrowfully, Huntsman isn't able to speak to the common man, and is not going to win the nomination.

Still, If I'm going to pick between Romney and Perry, then I would certainly pick Perry, and I'm an independent. Perry is really good at connecting with people, he acts like a leader and he has a backbone. The only real problem with Perry, is that he is too extreme, but at least he is not a boring flip-floper like Romney. I think Perry will do better in the election than Romney will. There is a reason liberals got fired up when he announced his candidacy.
 
Perry just grabbed the third rail of politics, and is hanging on.

(AP/The Huffington Post) -- During a stop in Iowa on Saturday Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry stood by his criticism of Social Security as a "Ponzi scheme." He said the entitlement program amounts to a "monstrous lie" for young Americans,
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I can see the ads now.

Romney is more electable. He may be boring, but "boring" is better than "loose cannon."
 
Zyphlin said:
I still think Huntsman would fare best in a national battle with Obama, but it would require him to actually get some momentum in the Primaries which just doesn't seem like it'll happen. He's fiscally sound enough to be able to have a chance to excite the Tea Party base in ways that Romeny can't. He's pro-life to help with the social conservatives but moderate on the environment and same sex marriage to appeal to moderates and moderate liberals. He's got a proven track record on jobs and economic growth to contrast to Obama and appeal to all sides. He's served in the Obama white house making criticizing him as an "extremist" massively difficult, but also served under the Reagan and Bush white houses making claims he's not a "real republican" not be as strong. He doesn't have the baggage of national perception that Romney has.

I think he'd give Obama a FAR better fight than Romney, but I just don't think he'll get to that point.
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I like Huntsman, but I don't believe it will happen.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Right wing, yes. Right about Social Security, no.
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After what I know, he is right that Social Security payments can be upheld. Hence, future generations will get a lot less out than they put in.
 
Camlon said:
After what I know, he is right that Social Security payments can be upheld. Hence, future generations will get a lot less out than they put in.
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Yep, it's almost inevitable that ages will be pushed further. That means the promise made to those who go in early were kept. As we go along, those who get in later will see those who get less or nothing. Before long, more will see nothing.
 
I think Romney will take the primary. He seems to be the most professional of the candidates so far. I'm hoping people will start to realize how incompetent Michele Bachmann is.
 
Voltaire X said:
I think Romney will take the primary. He seems to be the most professional of the candidates so far. I'm hoping people will start to realize how incompetent Michele Bachmann is.
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That would require the sensible voters of the GOP to stand up and say no. Bachmann looks dead in the water right now. But Perry has enough respectability to cover over the crazy. Maybe enough to win. That said, I do think the current administration would prefer to go against Perry. The adult vote in the GOP SHOULD go to Romney and independents IMO should favor him over Perry. Romney appears to accept the basis of science in his beliefs, he just waffles with the opinions. Perry seems to simply just ignore basic facts.
 
Fiddytree said:
I like Huntsman, but I don't believe it will happen.
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Highly likely. For Huntsman to actually win, the adult wing of the GOP has to take control. I don't see this happening.

Let's be a truly honest here. Perry doesn't seem like the type to accept information he does not like. That is a sign of a poor manager. Furthermore, Perry never had to deal with adversity. He got a big state with lots of energy and lots of federal funding at the same with an all Republican legislature. Romney had to deal with a far more complex state and an opposition legislature. Furthermore, to run a capital management firm, you need to be able to accept relevant information you do not like. I do agree with Z that Romney is slimy, but he's an intelligent slimy. Perry honestly, after this debate sounds like an idiot. Not Bachmann style idiot-crazy, but still an idiot. It's never good to have rumors about you being dumb floating around for years.
 
Proud South Korean said:
I'd personally prefer Huntsman, but he won't have much of the GOP support base, given that he worked for Obama once, and he's too moderate on many issues.
However, given over the prominent GOP candidates, I have to agree that Romney would be the best. He appeals to the GOP if he wins the nomination, appeals to the moderates, and appeals to the anti-Obama Democrats.
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Huntsman would obliterate Obama. The independent vote would be the most lopsided we've ever seen. A rational, moderate Republican for getting the state out of your life, who's economic record isn't built upon non-replicable energy and federal funding, and hasn't made crazy statements would hand Obama his pink slip. It's no wonder why Obama got real close to Huntsman right after his resignation. The last candidate the Democrats want to face is Huntsman.
 
obvious Child said:
Huntsman would obliterate Obama. The independent vote would be the most lopsided we've ever seen. A rational, moderate Republican for getting the state out of your life, who's economic record isn't built upon non-replicable energy and federal funding, and hasn't made crazy statements would hand Obama his pink slip. It's no wonder why Obama got real close to Huntsman right after his resignation. The last candidate the Democrats want to face is Huntsman.
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I don't say this much...

I agree with you 100%.

Its the lack of name recognition and the fact that the media and the Republican establishment have done a good job labeling him as a "moderate" rich isn't really correct that's gong to do him in. Its a pity because I do really think he'd have the best shot at beating Obama.
 
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