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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    thus sayeth the "libertarian" .




    but in general, yes, Perry can beat Obama.
    Do you really think Perry is any more a Libertarian than Obama? He looks to me to be way on the authoritarian side.

    Of course, it's hard to tell just where he does stand. Sometimes, I think it's wherever he thinks his audience stands.

    Does he still support Al Gore?
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Huntsman would obliterate Obama. The independent vote would be the most lopsided we've ever seen. A rational, moderate Republican for getting the state out of your life, who's economic record isn't built upon non-replicable energy and federal funding, and hasn't made crazy statements would hand Obama his pink slip. It's no wonder why Obama got real close to Huntsman right after his resignation. The last candidate the Democrats want to face is Huntsman.
    You are absolutely correct. The saving grace for us Democrats though is....the GOP is never going to nominate a rational candidate.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    thus sayeth the "libertarian" .




    but in general, yes, Perry can beat Obama.
    Perry is completely unelectable....two questions:

    (1) How do you expect Perry to win Florida with his stances on social security and medicare

    (2) What mathematical formula are you using that the GOP can win the whitehouse without Florida?
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are absolutely correct. The saving grace for us Democrats though is....the GOP is never going to nominate a rational candidate.
    I love it when liberals believe they know best what is best for the GOP. It is indeed humorous.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Perry is completely unelectable....two questions:

    (1) How do you expect Perry to win Florida with his stances on social security and medicare

    (2) What mathematical formula are you using that the GOP can win the whitehouse without Florida?
    I am 66 nd have been retired for nearly two years. I agree far more with Perry on Social Security than Romney. As for Florida, I never try to predict something that is 14 months in the future. There could be many states that went for President Obama in 2008 that could go Republican next year. If that happens, the formula might not have to have Florida.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I am 66 nd have been retired for nearly two years. I agree far more with Perry on Social Security than Romney. As for Florida, I never try to predict something that is 14 months in the future. There could be many states that went for President Obama in 2008 that could go Republican next year. If that happens, the formula might not have to have Florida.
    You obviously don't follow the electoral circuit much. Sure, the election is far off, but anyone who follows the electoral college can tell you there are certain states are are almost 100% safe Red or Blue. Then you take the states that may not be 100% safe, but still mathematically secure Blue/Red. Then you have the swing states.

    Sure...a lot of things can change, but in the last 2 decades, there has not been a mathematical equation that gets to the 270 required for Republicans without including Florida in the mix, unless......the GOP carries every one of the swing states, which is not likely barring a landslide.

    Perry is not a landslide candidate. At best, he would pull it off in a very close race....and without Florida there is little liklihood of that happening. Why do you think that so many people like me hope that the GOP nominates an extreme right candidate like Perry, Bachman or Palin?

    The GOP's best chance at beating Obama is Huntsman or Romney....and there is no way that the wacko base goes for either of those candidates. So....as a Democrat, I'm feeling pretty good about the chances of Obama being re-elected, even in a struggling economy like we have.....Why? Because although people such as yourself might want an extreme far-right candidate, moderates and independents do not. And you cannot win the whitehouse with only your base.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You obviously don't follow the electoral circuit much. Sure, the election is far off, but anyone who follows the electoral college can tell you there are certain states are are almost 100% safe Red or Blue. Then you take the states that may not be 100% safe, but still mathematically secure Blue/Red. Then you have the swing states.
    This goes to show how much you actually know versus what you think you know. I am well aware of the electoral votes.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure...a lot of things can change, but in the last 2 decades, there has not been a mathematical equation that gets to the 270 required for Republicans without including Florida in the mix, unless......the GOP carries every one of the swing states, which is not likely barring a landslide.
    With President Obama's ratings, a GOP landslide is within the realm of possibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Perry is not a landslide candidate. At best, he would pull it off in a very close race....and without Florida there is little liklihood of that happening. Why do you think that so many people like me hope that the GOP nominates an extreme right candidate like Perry, Bachman or Palin?
    Actually, I could care less about why liberals want what they want. I am not convinced that Perry will be the candidate.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The GOP's best chance at beating Obama is Huntsman or Romney....and there is no way that the wacko base goes for either of those candidates. So....as a Democrat, I'm feeling pretty good about the chances of Obama being re-elected, even in a struggling economy like we have.....Why? Because although people such as yourself might want an extreme far-right candidate, moderates and independents do not. And you cannot win the whitehouse with only your base.
    The independents thought they had a reasonable candidate in Obama in 2008. My guess is most are very dissatisfied and I believe the polls show that. The "wacko" base of the "extreme leftwing" will stay with Obama, but many will be more than willing to cast him aside. Ergo, watch out! Now, go take your "fanatical extremist leftwing liberal" thoughts and keep them under wraps until after the election so that the rest of the "crazies" of the "radical extremist leftwing socialists" don't go into their normal mantras. Oh, and you have no idea as to what candidate I support. Again, you think you know far more than you actually do.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    This goes to show how much you actually know versus what you think you know. I am well aware of the electoral votes.



    With President Obama's ratings, a GOP landslide is within the realm of possibility.



    Actually, I could care less about why liberals want what they want. I am not convinced that Perry will be the candidate.



    The independents thought they had a reasonable candidate in Obama in 2008. My guess is most are very dissatisfied and I believe the polls show that. The "wacko" base of the "extreme leftwing" will stay with Obama, but many will be more than willing to cast him aside. Ergo, watch out! Now, go take your "fanatical extremist leftwing liberal" thoughts and keep them under wraps until after the election so that the rest of the "crazies" of the "radical extremist leftwing socialists" don't go into their normal mantras. Oh, and you have no idea as to what candidate I support. Again, you think you know far more than you actually do.
    You couldn't be more wrong. Read up on the electoral college. Do a little research of how the college has gone the past three decades and then get back to me.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You couldn't be more wrong. Read up on the electoral college. Do a little research of how the college has gone the past three decades and then get back to me.
    You already agreed that I could be correct. I'm satisfied with that result.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post



    Actually, I could care less about why liberals want what they want. I am not convinced that Perry will be the candidate.
    Let's hope not.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    The independents thought they had a reasonable candidate in Obama in 2008.
    Either that, or they thought that Obama was the lesser of the two evils. If the Republicans nominate Perry, they just might think so again.
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