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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    I think Romney will take the primary. He seems to be the most professional of the candidates so far. I'm hoping people will start to realize how incompetent Michele Bachmann is.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    I think Romney will take the primary. He seems to be the most professional of the candidates so far. I'm hoping people will start to realize how incompetent Michele Bachmann is.
    That would require the sensible voters of the GOP to stand up and say no. Bachmann looks dead in the water right now. But Perry has enough respectability to cover over the crazy. Maybe enough to win. That said, I do think the current administration would prefer to go against Perry. The adult vote in the GOP SHOULD go to Romney and independents IMO should favor him over Perry. Romney appears to accept the basis of science in his beliefs, he just waffles with the opinions. Perry seems to simply just ignore basic facts.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I like Huntsman, but I don't believe it will happen.
    Highly likely. For Huntsman to actually win, the adult wing of the GOP has to take control. I don't see this happening.

    Let's be a truly honest here. Perry doesn't seem like the type to accept information he does not like. That is a sign of a poor manager. Furthermore, Perry never had to deal with adversity. He got a big state with lots of energy and lots of federal funding at the same with an all Republican legislature. Romney had to deal with a far more complex state and an opposition legislature. Furthermore, to run a capital management firm, you need to be able to accept relevant information you do not like. I do agree with Z that Romney is slimy, but he's an intelligent slimy. Perry honestly, after this debate sounds like an idiot. Not Bachmann style idiot-crazy, but still an idiot. It's never good to have rumors about you being dumb floating around for years.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I'd personally prefer Huntsman, but he won't have much of the GOP support base, given that he worked for Obama once, and he's too moderate on many issues.
    However, given over the prominent GOP candidates, I have to agree that Romney would be the best. He appeals to the GOP if he wins the nomination, appeals to the moderates, and appeals to the anti-Obama Democrats.
    Huntsman would obliterate Obama. The independent vote would be the most lopsided we've ever seen. A rational, moderate Republican for getting the state out of your life, who's economic record isn't built upon non-replicable energy and federal funding, and hasn't made crazy statements would hand Obama his pink slip. It's no wonder why Obama got real close to Huntsman right after his resignation. The last candidate the Democrats want to face is Huntsman.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Huntsman would obliterate Obama. The independent vote would be the most lopsided we've ever seen. A rational, moderate Republican for getting the state out of your life, who's economic record isn't built upon non-replicable energy and federal funding, and hasn't made crazy statements would hand Obama his pink slip. It's no wonder why Obama got real close to Huntsman right after his resignation. The last candidate the Democrats want to face is Huntsman.
    I don't say this much...

    I agree with you 100%.

    Its the lack of name recognition and the fact that the media and the Republican establishment have done a good job labeling him as a "moderate" rich isn't really correct that's gong to do him in. Its a pity because I do really think he'd have the best shot at beating Obama.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Huntsman would obliterate Obama. The independent vote would be the most lopsided we've ever seen. A rational, moderate Republican for getting the state out of your life, who's economic record isn't built upon non-replicable energy and federal funding, and hasn't made crazy statements would hand Obama his pink slip. It's no wonder why Obama got real close to Huntsman right after his resignation. The last candidate the Democrats want to face is Huntsman.
    Yes, and the least likely candidate as well. It makes me wonder whether the Republican Party really wants to win the White House. Maybe the strategy is to continue to snipe from the sidelines, instead of playing the game.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't say this much...

    I agree with you 100%.

    Its the lack of name recognition and the fact that the media and the Republican establishment have done a good job labeling him as a "moderate" rich isn't really correct that's gong to do him in. Its a pity because I do really think he'd have the best shot at beating Obama.
    The only Repub i'd even consider is Huntsman. If he got the nomination without veering right I would consider voting for him, even though I personally believe its critical to thwart those who believe this election is worth investing the money they are. I honestly believe a Repub victory in '12 would be really BAD for the country. I don't want to see American people shoved down to second world status so our fiscal "teams" can compete in the current game of global Monopoly.

    But maybe not with Huntsman. He sounds much more like the kind of conservative I grew up around, whose values color mine to this day, liberal as I am.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't say this much...

    I agree with you 100%.
    LOL. I'm not the nicest person. It's hard to agree with me 100% of the time.

    Its the lack of name recognition and the fact that the media and the Republican establishment have done a good job labeling him as a "moderate" rich isn't really correct that's gong to do him in.
    Well, it's not just that as why Huntsman is DOA. The Republican Candidate for 2012 is, barring any shift of power to the adults in the GOP, going to be chosen by the emotional voters. Huntsman is hardly their candidate. For that reason alone, IMO, Huntsman is laying the groundwork for 2016 or 2020. He knows he can't win. Huntsman is having a difficult time getting the Tea Party on board. While he's likely to shine in the North East where Republicans are for the most part moderates, that won't win him the nomination. I suspect Bachmann will tank in the North East and Perry is going to slide. Those GOP voters have always demanded substance and honestly, those two are somewhat substance free.

    Its a pity because I do really think he'd have the best shot at beating Obama.
    Not only does he have the best shot, he's entirely likely to actually win. Huntsman doesn't have the social conservative baggage that the rest of the GOP candidates have. In that aspect alone he can take youth voters from Obama. Furthermore, his recent science statements criticizing the GOP are a big push for independents to leave Obama. Rather than risk a GOP candidate who denies many basic scientific facts, they'd have a choice between two candidates who believe and accept proven science. Huntsman has many strengths that would systematically strip specific groups of voters from Obama that the other GOP candidates simply do not have.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    OMG! That many find Perry the least objectionable. That's just scary!
    thus sayeth the "libertarian" .




    but in general, yes, Perry can beat Obama.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    The only Repub i'd even consider is Huntsman.
    Ah, precisely the reason why he will not be the Republican candidate.
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