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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Romney just oozes slimy politician and just reminds me of a John Kerry type candidate. I'm really not fond of Perry, but I'd rather see him get the nod over Romney at this point. Sadly its shaping up that this election is going to be a choice between someone I don't like at all and someone I REALLY don't like.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    If he wins the nomination, then the Tea Party will be forced to support him. It's either Romney or Obama
    Its not whether they'll support him or not; its how fervantly. What's their turnout, what's their word of mouth enthusiasm, what's their donation efforts, etc. Its not like they'll run to Obama, but they'll not be nearly as energized.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I'd personally prefer Huntsman, but he won't have much of the GOP support base, given that he worked for Obama once, and he's too moderate on many issues.
    However, given over the prominent GOP candidates, I have to agree that Romney would be the best. He appeals to the GOP if he wins the nomination, appeals to the moderates, and appeals to the anti-Obama Democrats.
    I still think Huntsman would fare best in a national battle with Obama, but it would require him to actually get some momentum in the Primaries which just doesn't seem like it'll happen. He's fiscally sound enough to be able to have a chance to excite the Tea Party base in ways that Romeny can't. He's pro-life to help with the social conservatives but moderate on the environment and same sex marriage to appeal to moderates and moderate liberals. He's got a proven track record on jobs and economic growth to contrast to Obama and appeal to all sides. He's served in the Obama white house making criticizing him as an "extremist" massively difficult, but also served under the Reagan and Bush white houses making claims he's not a "real republican" not be as strong. He doesn't have the baggage of national perception that Romney has.

    I think he'd give Obama a FAR better fight than Romney, but I just don't think he'll get to that point.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I still think Huntsman would fare best in a national battle with Obama, but it would require him to actually get some momentum in the Primaries which just doesn't seem like it'll happen. He's fiscally sound enough to be able to have a chance to excite the Tea Party base in ways that Romeny can't. He's pro-life to help with the social conservatives but moderate on the environment and same sex marriage to appeal to moderates and moderate liberals. He's got a proven track record on jobs and economic growth to contrast to Obama and appeal to all sides. He's served in the Obama white house making criticizing him as an "extremist" massively difficult, but also served under the Reagan and Bush white houses making claims he's not a "real republican" not be as strong. He doesn't have the baggage of national perception that Romney has.

    I think he'd give Obama a FAR better fight than Romney, but I just don't think he'll get to that point.
    Agree, Huntsman would certainly be a better pick. Not just because he probably would win the election, but because he won't be hated by democrats and many independents. What US needs are problem solvers, not people who divide the country like Obama and Perry. Perry will have a hard time getting anything through congress, because Democrats will always vote against him. Sorrowfully, Huntsman isn't able to speak to the common man, and is not going to win the nomination.

    Still, If I'm going to pick between Romney and Perry, then I would certainly pick Perry, and I'm an independent. Perry is really good at connecting with people, he acts like a leader and he has a backbone. The only real problem with Perry, is that he is too extreme, but at least he is not a boring flip-floper like Romney. I think Perry will do better in the election than Romney will. There is a reason liberals got fired up when he announced his candidacy.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Perry just grabbed the third rail of politics, and is hanging on.

    (AP/The Huffington Post) -- During a stop in Iowa on Saturday Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry stood by his criticism of Social Security as a "Ponzi scheme." He said the entitlement program amounts to a "monstrous lie" for young Americans,
    I can see the ads now.

    Romney is more electable. He may be boring, but "boring" is better than "loose cannon."
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Perry just grabbed the third rail of politics, and is hanging on.



    I can see the ads now.

    Romney is more electable. He may be boring, but "boring" is better than "loose cannon."
    No doubt many will attack this. Problem is, he's right.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I still think Huntsman would fare best in a national battle with Obama, but it would require him to actually get some momentum in the Primaries which just doesn't seem like it'll happen. He's fiscally sound enough to be able to have a chance to excite the Tea Party base in ways that Romeny can't. He's pro-life to help with the social conservatives but moderate on the environment and same sex marriage to appeal to moderates and moderate liberals. He's got a proven track record on jobs and economic growth to contrast to Obama and appeal to all sides. He's served in the Obama white house making criticizing him as an "extremist" massively difficult, but also served under the Reagan and Bush white houses making claims he's not a "real republican" not be as strong. He doesn't have the baggage of national perception that Romney has.

    I think he'd give Obama a FAR better fight than Romney, but I just don't think he'll get to that point.
    I like Huntsman, but I don't believe it will happen.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    No doubt many will attack this. Problem is, he's right.
    Right wing, yes. Right about Social Security, no.
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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Right wing, yes. Right about Social Security, no.
    After what I know, he is right that Social Security payments can be upheld. Hence, future generations will get a lot less out than they put in.

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    Re: Insiders: GOP Would Be Better Off With Romney for 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    After what I know, he is right that Social Security payments can be upheld. Hence, future generations will get a lot less out than they put in.
    Yep, it's almost inevitable that ages will be pushed further. That means the promise made to those who go in early were kept. As we go along, those who get in later will see those who get less or nothing. Before long, more will see nothing.

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