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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Facts are facts honey. Liberals loved the bailout that were in office. Be it a republican liberal or a democrat liberal. They loved it.
    It is pretty obvious that when you get pinned in the corner you attempt to get out through distraction and going on the offensive with questions and pontifications. Sorry, but not today. lets go back to post 48 & 49.



    Originally Posted by Henrin
    So lets see if I understand this retarded unlimited power liberal argument. The idea is the government can regulate commerce, regulate business, sue business, and take over business whenever they please because they can "regulate" interstate commerce. Wow, and you can't see how that is ****ing retarded? The entire point of the commerce clause was to make sure everything was running smoothly and no one was mad at each other. They were meant to be the middle man in the process when things went bad, not the controlling force of all things commerce. To liberals though they damn well know that means disputes, but No, no, that is way to hard to follow. I mean, where is the power?? Yeah, exactly. So take your stupid ass and move along.


    In response to that I asked you directly

    Who is making the case that the federal government can
    take over business whenever they please because they can "regulate" interstate commerce,

    as you allege in your interpretation of what you think liberals believe?

    You then went on the offensive with a bunch of smoke and mirrors and never ever answered the question about your own claims.

    So lets hear your answer.
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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    the administration didn't have a problem taking over GM.

    just sayin'

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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is pretty obvious that when you get pinned in the corner you attempt to get out through distraction and going on the offensive with questions and pontifications. Sorry, but not today. lets go back to post 48 & 49.
    Its pretty obvious you want to ignore actions taken by your president.

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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Its pretty obvious you want to ignore actions taken by your president.
    More smoke and mirrors trying to get out of that corner .......... and you are not even good at it either since it so painfully obvious.

    So again

    Who is making the case that the federal government can


    take over business whenever they please because they can "regulate" interstate commerce,
    as you allege in your interpretation of what you think liberals believe?
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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    More smoke and mirrors trying to get out of that corner .......... and you are not even good at it either since it so painfully obvious.

    So again

    Who is making the case that the federal government can




    as you allege in your interpretation of what you think liberals believe?
    What is Obama? What is the people that voted for it? Liberals.

    I already answered your question but there it is again.

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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    While I agree somewhat, The at&t - T-Mobile merger wouldn't create a monopoly by a long shot. Thus there is no grounds for the lawsuit in the first place.
    Actually it would create a duopoly. Which would effectively function as a monopoly. Two big firms muscling out everyone else is essentially as bad as one big firm doing the same thing. The government has the duty to ensure that fair compeition occurs in the market. Every single study suggests that this merger would reduce compeition and increase consumer prices. Thus there is grounds for the lawsuit in the first place

    On a personal level, I hate the idea of at&t owning T-Mobile because I hate at&t.
    Props to that.
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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Lets make this real simple so you can follow along. I will now write one word...

    Peacemaker.

    The purposes isn't to make sure competition stays alive but that commerce stays flowing the way the members of the commerce desire.
    Say what? That may be the most asinine comment I've seen on this forum outside of the basement. The purpose isn't to serve business in way business wants it to work. If we did that, we'd be enacting barriers to entry, barring technologies that make established firms irrelevant otherwise stemming all forms of competition from the current members of commerce. The last thing members of commerce want is competition. Government partially exists to prevent collusion.

    No, you just believe in grade school understandings of things you might want to actually study on your own.
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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    AT&T was going to re-import 5,000 jobs back to the United States, if this merger went through.

    I reckon we can kiss those good-bye, now.

    So much for our pro-job president.
    5,000 jobs is basically nothing considering how many they'd cut from both AT&AT and T-mobile. Furthermore, the eventual increases in prices, reduction in competition and overall less free market we'd have would likely reduce total jobs by way more then 5,000.

    Seriously, do you ever do any form of critical analysis before you post? Or are you just looking for anything to bash Obama on?
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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Still waiting for an answer on how less competition is good for the economy. But why let laws, the Constitution and basic economic principles get in the way of a good Obama-hating?
    That ain't going to happen. Apdst will never answer that. He harps on what amounts to a minuscule amount of jobs while completely ignoring the job losses from a merger and higher prices.

    It's amusing watching Adpst attack Obama for basically defending more consumer choices. Some people will jump on anything to attack someone they dislike.
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    Re: Obama Administration Sues AT&T to stop its Merger with T-Mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Per the Blue Cross/Blue Shield thing: part of their monopolization (and they're not the only one like this) is becaues they're not permitted to function nation-wide without having a physical hold in the state itself.

    Insurance companies are relegated and restricted to certain areas under certain pretenses and requirements - the government, therefor, has removed the 'open and competitive market' required to be an 'evil' monopoly and, instead, made it harder for new companies to gain a foothold and not legal for existing companies to spread out easily.

    Ironic - but there it is.
    I'm glad you said that because opening up state lines was what the President proposed in health care reform legislation but was shot down by guess who...?

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