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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I keep saying that what we need to implement is a "human rights tax" on imported goods from countries that violate human rights. It is not right that countries and corporation should profit from practical slave labor.
    What about companies that don't violate "human rights" in those countries?
    Why should they also pay the tax?
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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    We were China 60 -100 years ago. We manipulated and used currencies, labor rates, trading advantages, etc. to build and protect our own economy. Now the Chinese are copying our method, nearly exactly. Would that make us a bit hypocritical to state that what China is doing is wrong? It's not rocket science.

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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    We were China 60 -100 years ago. We manipulated and used currencies, labor rates, trading advantages, etc. to build and protect our own economy. Now the Chinese are copying our method, nearly exactly. Would that make us a bit hypocritical to state that what China is doing is wrong? It's not rocket science.
    No, because we know what we did and we took steps to stop doing it. It wasn't like we swept this under the carpet and pretend that we never had business practices like those in China. We enacted laws to make people safer and get less abused by corporations, and openly admit that those practices in the past are why we have said laws today.
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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    What about companies that don't violate "human rights" in those countries?
    Why should they also pay the tax?
    You would be hard pressed to find a company that doesn't "violate human rights" in China. The reason why China is attractive for manufacturing is:

    1. Environmental rules are weak there. The regulations that exist there are largely unenforced.

    2. Labor laws are almost completely unenforced there. You can get away with having child labor, 12 hour days, not compensating for overtime, and fire someone for no reason at all. Hell they can even charge you for the time it takes you to eat your lunch or go to the restroom.

    3. The average salary is around 146 dollars a month (it may be a little higher now with inflation).

    4. Local governments will give you whatever you want.
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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    This just proves two things.

    First, Disney is an evil company. Obviosly.

    Second, that politicians are politicians because they want to make money for themselves at everybody elses expense.
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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    **** Disney and their investigation. They know what goes on in the factories over there.

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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I keep saying that what we need to implement is a "human rights tax" on imported goods from countries that violate human rights. It is not right that countries and corporation should profit from practical slave labor.
    That would be a good idea... I like it. This should be discouraged, and this story is tragic. Hopefully China will give their workers more rights soon.

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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    What about companies that don't violate "human rights" in those countries?
    Why should they also pay the tax?
    For the privledge of taking our jobs then wanting us to buy those goods made in another country. Even the playing field with companies that stayed in american AND CREATE JOBS HERE....yanno Harry the republican Job Creation thingy

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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    That would be a good idea... I like it. This should be discouraged, and this story is tragic. Hopefully China will give their workers more rights soon.
    China wont give the workers anything...the workers will have to take it and demand it

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    Re: This is why they moved to China

    What needs to happen is in my mind is that we need to have a set of published standards that all foreign import industries must live up to or they are band from doing business in this Country.

    Those standards need to mirror those American Companies must meet.

    This is a way that we can raise the bar around the world.

    The only exception is wages. Other Nations have different wage scales and for us to demand they meet ours would drive up the price of every import and hurt the economy as a whole. Not to mention international trade.

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