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    98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Thanks to Florida Gov. Rick Scott's insistence that people on welfare use drugs at a higher rate than the general population, the state's Legislature implemented a policy earlier this year requiring all applicants for temporary cash assistance to pass a drug test before getting any help. The results: Ninety-eight percent passed. And the process will cost the state $178 million.


    The Tampa Tribune reports that the Department of Children and Families says about 2 percent of applicants are failing the test and another 2 percent are not completing the application process for unspecified reasons.
    So much for that myth. Thanks for wasting money on hysteria over something that is barely a problem.

    Many of the alleged "leeches" on welfare now are the people who, until 2 years ago, were part of a functional work force and were productive contributors to economy. Now their lives are in chaos, their investments for the future are disintegrating before their eyes, and they are reduced to lesser prosperity. So... let's kick them while they're down and imply that they're drug abusers as well!

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    I'm not making accusations. I'm just curious what sort of test they are gave? I have twin 20 year old sons. They smoke some pot. eh, anyway they've got a lot of jobs lately through the local jobs agency. They have to take a drug test whenever they get hired. I asked them about being able to pass them. They told me they are gave a swab to put in their mouth. According to them as long as you don't put your tongue on it, you pass.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I'm not making accusations. I'm just curious what sort of test they are gave? I have twin 20 year old sons. They smoke some pot. eh, anyway they've got a lot of jobs lately through the local jobs agency. They have to take a drug test whenever they get hired. I asked them about being able to pass them. They told me they are gave a swab to put in their mouth. According to them as long as you don't put your tongue on it, you pass.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    You miss one key word: random.

    Hell, if I know I have to take a drug test in a few days, I can pass it too. This article only proves that people with advanced knowledge can beat drug tests. Wow. Dog bites man.

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    It depends on the test and what drug the person has been taking, how much and for how long

    Blood and urine tests are good for shorter periods of time. Hair samples will pick up drugs for a much longer period of time

    For low to moderate uses, cocaine will be out of the system in a few days, pot, a fair bit longer (hair testing picks up pot quite well months from the time of taking (provided a period of heavy use)

    Heroin, I cant comment on, neither do I have enough knowledge to comment on speed, or MDMA and how easily they are detected after time. I expect herion to be fairly easily detected.


    I have never heard of the mouth swab method for detecting drugs. I cant see that being very effective as the metabolites are more concentrated in the blood and urine rather then the saliva
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    It depends on the test and what drug the person has been taking, how much and for how long

    Blood and urine tests are good for shorter periods of time. Hair samples will pick up drugs for a much longer period of time

    For low to moderate uses, cocaine will be out of the system in a few days, pot, a fair bit longer (hair testing picks up pot quite well months from the time of taking (provided a period of heavy use)

    Heroin, I cant comment on, neither do I have enough knowledge to comment on speed, or MDMA and how easily they are detected after time. I expect herion to be fairly easily detected.


    I have never heard of the mouth swab method for detecting drugs. I cant see that being very effective as the metabolites are more concentrated in the blood and urine rather then the saliva
    I know. If it is true that this is the kind of test being performed, then that employer doesn't really seem serious about drug testing. Which wouldnt be surprising at all.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Both drug testing and welfare both have serious constitutional issues.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I know. If it is true that this is the kind of test being performed, then that employer doesn't really seem serious about drug testing. Which wouldnt be surprising at all.
    It might be a false test just to ensure the truelly drugged out people dont even bother applying. The employer screens out the hard core idiot users, and doesnt pay for any drug testing. Given that the mouth swab is always seen on TV for DNA testing, people unfamilar with drug testing might take it as legit
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    And yet another right wing myth crashes and burns in shameful ignominy.

    Anybody wanna bet those who prostrate themselves before the Altar of Hating the Poor will continue to believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts?
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

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    So much for that myth
    . Thanks for wasting money on hysteria over something that is barely a problem.

    Many of the alleged "leeches" on welfare now are the people who, until 2 years ago, were part of a functional work force and were productive contributors to economy. Now their lives are in chaos, their investments for the future are disintegrating before their eyes, and they are reduced to lesser prosperity. So... let's kick them while they're down and imply that they're drug abusers as well!

    Don't think the evidence is there to "chalk it up as a myth" just yet. Seems reasonable to assume that once it was announced that the recipients of the benefits are going to be drug tested, those that indulge in drug use are not going to apply.

    Sounds like the program just started last month. The telling statistic will be if overall benefits being doled out diminishes from the levels they were at pre-July.



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