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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

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    how did the lawmakers fare when tested for drugs?
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

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    Instead of wasting even more money on drug testing, just eliminate welfare.

    End of story!
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I would like to test all TeaBrains receiving medicare for liver functions. A full panel. If they are drinking and/or smoking, I say we cut off their blood pressure, heart, and diabetes meds.
    I agree, they should be put through the same psychological and medical tests that you have to take. Everyone should get free medical care, right?
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

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    98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test



    So much for that myth. Thanks for wasting money on hysteria over something that is barely a problem.

    Many of the alleged "leeches" on welfare now are the people who, until 2 years ago, were part of a functional work force and were productive contributors to economy. Now their lives are in chaos, their investments for the future are disintegrating before their eyes, and they are reduced to lesser prosperity. So... let's kick them while they're down and imply that they're drug abusers as well!
    so much BS. if you know you are going to be tested...it is easy to pass. Crack/cocaine, the drug of choice for many deadbeats, only stays in your system at detectable levels for 72 hours. DHR is a govt agency, and as such if horribly inefficient. if FL runs their program anything like AL does, the people know at least a week in advance when they are going to be tested.

    When we were doing foster care, one of the mothers was a crackhead, she knew that every Thursday afternoon she was going to get tested. So she would stop smoking crack early Monday morning and by thursday she was clean. She got caught only because I just happened to see her sitting in the DHR parking lot one thursday after her weekly test/visit smoking the pipe and I ratted her out.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so much BS. if you know you are going to be tested...it is easy to pass. Crack/cocaine, the drug of choice for many deadbeats, only stays in your system at detectable levels for 72 hours. DHR is a govt agency, and as such if horribly inefficient. if FL runs their program anything like AL does, the people know at least a week in advance when they are going to be tested.

    When we were doing foster care, one of the mothers was a crackhead, she knew that every Thursday afternoon she was going to get tested. So she would stop smoking crack early Monday morning and by thursday she was clean. She got caught only because I just happened to see her sitting in the DHR parking lot one thursday after her weekly test/visit smoking the pipe and I ratted her out.
    Cocaine is a little expensive for deadbeats, at least in non crack form.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Someone needs to check their math Using the figures in this article there is no way the cost of drug testing 1500 (top end...the article suggests 1000-1500) at $30 a pop, thats an outside max of 540,000 in costs for the tests, not $178 million. The $178 million figure is the total cost of the welfare program. Once the program is in place they should simply conduct random unannounced tests. Most folks can clean up for three days for their months worth of free cheese.

    Welfare drug-testing yields 2% positive results | TBO.com

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    The key word here is "applicants" if new applicants are not testing positive for drugs the law is working by keeping druggies from applying and swelling welfare rolls. My question is why isn't everyone on welfare rolls being tested, applicants and old timers alike? That may create some different results and actually shrink welfare rolls. I think libs careful focus on the word applicant skews the stats.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    The key word here is "applicants" if new applicants are not testing positive for drugs the law is working by keeping druggies from applying and swelling welfare rolls. My question is why isn't everyone on welfare rolls being tested, applicants and old timers alike? That may create some different results and actually shrink welfare rolls. I think libs careful focus on the word applicant skews the stats.
    Yeah you're right, and I missed that. It also ties into the point I made early on: if you know you're going to be tested, it's easy to beat the system.

    When they give random drug tests to all collecting welfare - new applicants and long-time recipients - and 98% pass then I'll give them a thumbs-up. Until then...

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The key word here is "applicants" if new applicants are not testing positive for drugs the law is working by keeping druggies from applying and swelling welfare rolls. My question is why isn't everyone on welfare rolls being tested, applicants and old timers alike? That may create some different results and actually shrink welfare rolls. I think libs careful focus on the word applicant skews the stats.
    I dont think the intent of the law should be to keep people from getting help. It should be to help people get help that need it, to help people asses priorities, and to identify those that need further help getting clean as a part of building a path to a better future. I support the drug testing as a means of helping people reach a point of self sufficiency, not soleley as a means of punshing drug addicted persons.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont think the intent of the law should be to keep people from getting help. It should be to help people get help that need it, to help people asses priorities, and to identify those that need further help getting clean as a part of building a path to a better future. I support the drug testing as a means of helping people reach a point of self sufficiency, not soleley as a means of punshing drug addicted persons.
    I agree with your rationale to some extent but at the end of the day I ask myself, do I really want the government taking money out of my hard-earned paycheck to give to someone so they could buy food, which they could have bought in the first place if they didn't spend it on _______ (insert drug of choice here)?

    I understand that addiction is a very powerful thing, however I know from experience that people will use the "power of addiction" as an excuse for being too lazy, too self absorbed to wake up and smell the coffee and take control of their own life.
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