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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    There is really nothing wrong with someone telling someone else "here is some cash, if you want it though, you have to pass a drug test". I wouldnt even mind making sure they are not using alcohol, as well. And it does sound like it is minimally cost effective. According to the reports, it will save around 50,000 dollars per year, total savings for the whole program, net.

    However, as a liberal, I'd want to offer addicts treatment. I think this would also be cost effective, from the standpoint of the economy. Fewer intoxication related driving accidents, becoming a contributing member of the economy, and so forth. Of course, that last part assumes there are the same number of jobs in our economy as there are workers who want them, which right now is not the case.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I have never heard of the mouth swab method for detecting drugs. I cant see that being very effective as the metabolites are more concentrated in the blood and urine rather then the saliva
    Indeed. Obviously they are not that concerned. The other types of tests generally have to be sent off to be tested I believe. In most cases my sons have been told to report the next day. My guess is that they are not all the concerned. They are able to say they were tested. It's what I asked what sort of test was administered here.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Don't think the evidence is there to "chalk it up as a myth" just yet. Seems reasonable to assume that once it was announced that the recipients of the benefits are going to be drug tested, those that indulge in drug use are not going to apply.

    Sounds like the program just started last month. The telling statistic will be if overall benefits being doled out diminishes from the levels they were at pre-July.



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    They already accounted for this in the article. 2% didn't pass and an additional 2% of applicants have decided not to seek benefits (for unspecified reasons). That would be a maximium 4% on drugs.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Indeed. Obviously they are not that concerned. The other types of tests generally have to be sent off to be tested I believe. In most cases my sons have been told to report the next day. My guess is that they are not all the concerned. They are able to say they were tested. It's what I asked what sort of test was administered here.
    It is a urine test.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    They already accounted for this in the article. 2% didn't pass and an additional 2% of applicants have decided not to seek benefits (for unspecified reasons). That would be a maximium 4% on drugs.
    That would be 4% of those who applied. I'm not saying that it's not a small percentage but if we really care to get an accurate answer the facts need fully presented.

    1. As I already asked, what sort of test is administered.

    2. If 200 people applied pre-July and only 125 people applied in post July with 2% failing and 2% refusing to take the test, that doesn't give us an accurate picture.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

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    98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test



    So much for that myth. Thanks for wasting money on hysteria over something that is barely a problem.

    Many of the alleged "leeches" on welfare now are the people who, until 2 years ago, were part of a functional work force and were productive contributors to economy. Now their lives are in chaos, their investments for the future are disintegrating before their eyes, and they are reduced to lesser prosperity. So... let's kick them while they're down and imply that they're drug abusers as well!
    I would like to test all TeaBrains receiving medicare for liver functions. A full panel. If they are drinking and/or smoking, I say we cut off their blood pressure, heart, and diabetes meds.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    It is a urine test.
    That would certainly be more accurate and the pitcure tends to point in that direction but it's certainly not clear by the artice.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    That would certainly be more accurate and the pitcure tends to point in that direction but it's certainly not clear by the artice.
    Oh, sorry, I read it another place, but dont recall where. I don't want to look it up right now where it was, but a google of "Florida drug test welfare urine" would probably find it if you are interested in knowing.
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    Even cracked-out welfare thieves have enough sense NOT to submit to a drug test when they know they can't pass it. Read and disseminate ALL info if u expect to be taken seriously.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    If the ACLU believes it's unconstitutional then they should just pursue action against that and stop prancing around - it was debated, enacted and finally put into full swing and is now going on and they still haven't done it. Do they care or not?

    The state should upfront pay for the test - no one should have to pay out of pocket. If one fails then they just don't get benefits and maybe they pay back the $30.00

    2% is still high in my opinion for how few people they tested and for how short of a time they've done the testing.
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