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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea
    If you had read the article, you would have read that 98% who were tested passed. I am willing to bet that this is a better record of staying off drugs than the banksters would have if they were subjected to the same scrutiny. Are you for drug testing for the corporate elite before they get any more welfare payments. Yea, I know, I know, you will call it something else, but it is still on MY damn dime, and that makes it welfare. So how about drug testing corporate officers of Goldman-Sachs, GE, Citigroup, etc. You certainly can't be against that, if you truly believe that welfare applicants should be drug tested.
    That's a non sequitur, unless it's a covert slam on corporate welfare, in which I lol'd.

    And last I checked, most private sector employment places are also subject to drug tests. Somewhat planned initially (employment), but in most places if you injure yourself on premises you are required to take an immediate drug test, thereby quantitating the "random" part discussed in the thread.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    That's a non sequitur, unless it's a covert slam on corporate welfare, in which I lol'd.

    And last I checked, most private sector employment places are also subject to drug tests. Somewhat planned initially (employment), but in most places if you injure yourself on premises you are required to take an immediate drug test, thereby quantitating the "random" part discussed in the thread.
    The difference being you sign a contract to that affect
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If you had read the article, you would have read that 98% who were tested passed. I am willing to bet that this is a better record of staying off drugs than the banksters would have if they were subjected to the same scrutiny. Are you for drug testing for the corporate elite before they get any more welfare payments. Yea, I know, I know, you will call it something else, but it is still on MY damn dime, and that makes it welfare. So how about drug testing corporate officers of Goldman-Sachs, GE, Citigroup, etc. You certainly can't be against that, if you truly believe that welfare applicants should be drug tested.
    Nope not against it at all, same applies to them ... .they are told when they will be tested, and only when they are applying for said welfare. I'll make you a bet .. that they pass 100%

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    The difference being you sign a contract to that affect
    ??? confused here, so what you are saying, is it's perfectly reasonable to work for a living, and expect to be drug tested, but if you are going to live free off the government, it's a gross miscarriage of justice ?? Sorry I fail to find any logic in that.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    ??? confused here, so what you are saying, is it's perfectly reasonable to work for a living, and expect to be drug tested, but if you are going to live free off the government, it's a gross miscarriage of justice ?? Sorry I fail to find any logic in that.
    You have rights the government isn't suppose to infringe on. Its falls under "unreasonable search and seizure". Everyone currently getting government aid should have to sign a contract waving the right to it when it comes to drug testing.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Dare to dream, sir...
    Yes sadly, many approve of this form of theft because they think it will "help" people?
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Highway View Post
    Yes sadly, many approve of this form of theft because they think it will "help" people?
    Whats sad is that, despite people donating their own money and the gov taking it, poverty still exist people still suffer from hunger and are homeless.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher
    The difference being you sign a contract to that affect
    Fair enough. Require contracts for welfare recipients. Problem solved.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Quite possible. Feel free to look it up.

    I never said conservatives were innocent, but I'd rather see my tax dollars spent bombing some third-world nation for oil interests than giving money to an irresponsible person to use irresponsibly. But hey, I'm kooky like that.

    I would be willing to wager that "conservatives" don't rack up unnecessary debt as much as liberals. Not that I classify him as such, but the most recent anecdotal evidence would be Bush. Want to compare him to Obama for 2 minutes? I bet I come out on top.
    Well, by definition, conservatives should be in less debt than liberals. Conservatives, if they adhere to their roots, are fiscally "cheap" people so they should be saving and not spending. I know I am a libertarian, far right of a typical conservative, and the only debt I have is my house. Otherwise, at the age of 31, I outright own 2 vehicles, one a Mercedes, a motorcycle, a boat, a trailer (not a boat trailer), a 22hp brand new hydrostatic riding mower and 3 computers. My house should be paid off in 5-10 years, and I just closed on it at the end of July. I have more in savings than most people making 3 times as much as I do. I eat free lunches (food given to me by others, not sucking off of a gov't tit) and very cheap dinners. I never eat breakfast. Give me a 10 dollar bill and I'll eat for a week.

    But I work my ass off for a living.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    At the risk of repeating myself, all NEW APPLICANTS were tested NOT people already on welfare. This law worked, druggies need not apply! SHEEEEESH

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