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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    So, you admit that the tests you guys asked for were pointless, you just think they were pointless for a different reason than I do. Regardless, you admit you made a mistake and insulted a ton of people for no reason, right?
    The story itself notes that there is not enough data yet to make any conclusions. I hope it's right but there are no facts as of yet.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    So, you admit that the tests you guys asked for were pointless, you just think they were pointless for a different reason than I do. Regardless, you admit you made a mistake and insulted a ton of people for no reason, right?
    I asked for nothing - what is pointless is advertising when drug tests will be administered. The mistake is interpreting these tests as valid, but as long as it is aligned with your belief, no matter the data is worthless, you will hold it up as a shining beacon of truth and vindication. Yes yes... been to this movie a thousand times.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I asked for nothing - what is pointless is advertising when drug tests will be administered. The mistake is interpreting these tests as valid, but as long as it is aligned with your belief, no matter the data is worthless, you will hold it up as a shining beacon of truth and vindication. Yes yes... been to this movie a thousand times.
    Ok, if you didn't personally ask for these tests, the right did. And it insulted a lot of people and produced nothing of value. If you didn't ask for it, would you agree that it was a mistake on their part?

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    98% of all welfare recipients, or 98% of all welfare recipients that were tested?

    I'm betting it's the latter, which begs the question: How many welfare recipients were actually tested?
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I'm not making accusations. I'm just curious what sort of test they are gave? I have twin 20 year old sons. They smoke some pot. eh, anyway they've got a lot of jobs lately through the local jobs agency. They have to take a drug test whenever they get hired. I asked them about being able to pass them. They told me they are gave a swab to put in their mouth. According to them as long as you don't put your tongue on it, you pass.
    I know of pot smokers that have taken niacin to get rid of any evidence of it in their systems. Apparently it cleanses the system flushing out all the impurities in it. And it must work as those people have gotten jobs. In todays world, I guess most employers test for pot/drugs. At least those with larger companies.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    There was a time that I supported drug testing for welfare applicants but then I realize it was just a distraction from the real problem which is the welfare system itself.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Highway
    There was a time that I supported drug testing for welfare applicants but then I realize it was just a distraction from the real problem which is the welfare system itself.
    Well yeah, in an ideal world the whole welfare system would be overhauled. However, I think we both know this will never be the case. Welfare reform begins with more than just drug tests. This is just an aspect of it.

    I'd love to see it brought to a minimal, with recipients passing very arduous and stringent measures to qualify. People these days just see it as a paid vacation. That has to end.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well yeah, in an ideal world the whole welfare system would be overhauled. However, I think we both know this will never be the case. Welfare reform begins with more than just drug tests. This is just an aspect of it.
    Getting the federal government out of the welfare business would be a important first steps. Let the states decide.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Dare to dream, sir...

    It sure would affect property values, that's for sure. A state with a militant view against welfare? I know I'd be packing my bags.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    98% of all welfare recipients, or 98% of all welfare recipients that were tested?

    I'm betting it's the latter, which begs the question: How many welfare recipients were actually tested?
    If you had read the article, you would have read that 98% who were tested passed. I am willing to bet that this is a better record of staying off drugs than the banksters would have if they were subjected to the same scrutiny. Are you for drug testing for the corporate elite before they get any more welfare payments. Yea, I know, I know, you will call it something else, but it is still on MY damn dime, and that makes it welfare. So how about drug testing corporate officers of Goldman-Sachs, GE, Citigroup, etc. You certainly can't be against that, if you truly believe that welfare applicants should be drug tested.
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