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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I'm happy to help those that need it, but it sounds like you want to provide the white glove service to them free of charge.
    I think shes frustrated with the rhetoric on this forum from some and coming from the teaparty who seem to want to rip the lungs out of everyone that are not the richest in the country.
    Kali like me is for the underdog....its them that need the most support, somehow lately there seems to be an attitude that its the rich that are the downtrodden and need to be coddled with more huge tax cuts....eventually that attitude is going to make alot more Kali's....dont change Kali america needs people with hearts...its what made us America

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    This is the USA! We are not some ****ing commie ass country that is gonna force people to live in tents! Why the hell do you even live here as you seem to lack the spirit that makes us the best country ever! Where is your heart and spirit towards others and wishing to help others?

    You wish to treat people living here in this free country as 2nd class citizens and it should not happen.
    If it is the USA we should treat people like equals meaning in this case no special treatment.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Actually, the numbers don't bare that out. Comparing an 8.3% drop in FL-TANF applicants for one month does not illustrate the success or failure of a drug testing policy. The only way to accurately measure such would be to review the numbers one year from the date the policy was put in place. Moreover, you'd also have to look at the number of applicants who tested positive and volunteered to attend drug rehab from one year to the next.

    Fact is, you're not going to see the actual results for atleast another year or two.
    Then why are people losing their mind about the cost of the program vs the benefit? And why do they continue to cite the cost of Welfare in the state as the cost of the drug testing program? It cant POSSIBLY have anything to do with posters bias and agenda...

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If it is the USA we should treat people like equals meaning in this case no special treatment.
    nonesense henrin nothing is equal in this country.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    nonesense henrin nothing is equal in this country.
    I'm assuming you are talking about opportunity and relating opportunity to amount of work needed to reach a certain class. That doesn't mean the opportunity is not there, it just means one party has farther to go than another party. I do not consider that unequal as both parties in the same situation would have the same road ahead of them.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm assuming you are talking about opportunity and relating opportunity to amount of work needed to reach a certain class. That doesn't mean the opportunity is not there, it just means one party has farther to go than another party. I do not consider that unequal as both parties in the same situation would have the same road ahead of them.
    Its absolutely unequal...how can you compare a kid born with a gold spoon sticking out of his buttocks to a kid born in the slums in terms of equal opportunity....its not even close in terms of struggle and impediments....Henrin the term BORN EQUAL only applies to birth rights...after that the entire ballgame changes....and your quite smart enough to know that

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali
    I really wish I could take you on a trip to real hoods to see how people live! Children do sometimes only eat beans and bread and at the end of the month that could be their only meal. You are one of those that have decided just because there is a small few that rip off the system that everyone else on welfare are living high off the hog when that is not the case!

    You have been duped and are brainwashed towards those evil poor folks on welfare simply cause you have bought into some twisted untrue view that the majority of folks on welfare are living nice, lazy and eating good. It is simply not true! You have fell for a sterotype!!
    1) I'm not going on a trip to the "hood". Hell with that. Princes don't walk with paupers. Pardon me for not wishing I was a "brutha".

    2) Alot of them do live relatively "high on the hog", for lack of better terms. I know women right now on all sorts of government assistance from A to Z that have their own place. They get some high-ticket items at the grocery store. They're afforded lots of things I wouldn't buy because of price tags (part of that is because I'm a cheap mofo, but that's beside the point). This should not be allowed. I know people who work full-time and live with parents or family due to lack of finances. To see these women with multiple kids, not working or working part-time, with their own place is just a giant "Fck you" sign to others who aren't remotely as irresponsible.

    3) You need to stop trying to "represent" for your "peoples". This white race apologist mad-at-daddy crap is just annoying. If you want to go hang with the ghetto, drink malt liquor and shoot dice all day, that's fine. Hands off my tax money. You can stay in hovel without your hand in my pocket.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its absolutely unequal...how can you compare a kid born with a gold spoon sticking out of his buttocks to a kid born in the slums in terms of equal opportunity....its not even close in terms of struggle and impediments....Henrin the term BORN EQUAL only applies to birth rights...after that the entire ballgame changes....and your quite smart enough to know that
    I don't accept the premise. You believe that because of where they were born they are not equal. They are equal as you admit by birth rights. Opportunity is a chance game played by us all. We can't pick our part on the field, we can bearly pick the amount of work it will take to get the position on the field we wish. We play to the best of our abilities all of us, and in that respect the world is equal as long as the rights of all individuals are kept sound. There will always be a natural sense of inequality, it is natural. The thing that makes us equal in any society is our rights and liberties.

    Sure some will get to higher ground quicker than others through many avenues and sure sometimes luck takes someone higher faster, but again both are all natural orders of the world. You can't find equality with value by fighting the natural world in the economic environment.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast
    I think shes frustrated with the rhetoric on this forum from some and coming from the teaparty who seem to want to rip the lungs out of everyone that are not the richest in the country.
    Kali like me is for the underdog....its them that need the most support, somehow lately there seems to be an attitude that its the rich that are the downtrodden and need to be coddled with more huge tax cuts....eventually that attitude is going to make alot more Kali's....dont change Kali america needs people with hearts...its what made us America
    Kali is not the one you want to look up to. She wouldn't know economic theory if it pimp-slapped her. She comes on here with these emotional pleas, pretty much asking everyone with money to write a blank check to help people who don't deserve, nor have tried to better their situations. She just acts like the town crier for redistribution, mostly as a push for reparations I'm led to believe. Financially, she speaks in a manner likening her to someone who has never worked, nor paid taxes ever.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    LOL! We kinda veered offtopic. Sorry dude
    And don't call me DUDE!

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