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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Originally they had to pay 30.00 to take the test...that was in the law when it passed...did they change ?

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I will repeat myself for you libs that need a hammer to the head to get a point and I will shout! THE PROGRAM IS A SUCCESS; IT HAS KEPT DRUGGIES FROM APPLYING FOR CASH PAYOUTS! Why do I try?
    Actually, the numbers don't bare that out. Comparing an 8.3% drop in FL-TANF applicants for one month does not illustrate the success or failure of a drug testing policy. The only way to accurately measure such would be to review the numbers one year from the date the policy was put in place. Moreover, you'd also have to look at the number of applicants who tested positive and volunteered to attend drug rehab from one year to the next.

    Fact is, you're not going to see the actual results for atleast another year or two.

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

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    98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    So much for that myth. Thanks for wasting money on hysteria over something that is barely a problem.

    Many of the alleged "leeches" on welfare now are the people who, until 2 years ago, were part of a functional work force and were productive contributors to economy. Now their lives are in chaos, their investments for the future are disintegrating before their eyes, and they are reduced to lesser prosperity. So... let's kick them while they're down and imply that they're drug abusers as well!
    #1 -- I do not believe that only 2% of people receiving public assistance are testing positive for drugs.
    #2 -- Explain to me how this program is costing $100+ million. Just because that's quoted in one line of your article doesn't make it so. Or should I believe everything I read??
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yeah Lord, you got me...something like 18th century Great Britain. Guilty.



    No, I hope welfare wasn't designed to "support the nuclear family", because that's entirely too much cost. It's supposed to ensure the bare minimum of survival for all parties involved. If I was to see a "welfare family" in an average-sized house, multiple kids, sitting around a finely crafted dinner table with a steak in front of them, I would vomit with rage. You would completely disincentivize working. They can do jack, and enjoy standard benefits rendered to hard-working middle-class citizens? Hell, I wouldn't try to get a job either.

    Know what welfare should mean? It should mean squalor. It should mean beans and bread for dinner. It should mean thrift shop clothing runs. Give them barely enough to survive, and let them know firsthand that this is the life that is destined for them should they choose to continue this behavior. They can look around at the gainfully employed, driving Cadillacs out to Red Lobster for dinner, and know that with the right effort, they could hope for that someday too.

    In the meantime, I'm all about cost minimalization for people that are currently living off the dole.
    I really wish I could take you on a trip to real hoods to see how people live! Children do sometimes only eat beans and bread and at the end of the month that could be their only meal. You are one of those that have decided just because there is a small few that rip off the system that everyone else on welfare are living high off the hog when that is not the case!

    You have been duped and are brainwashed towards those evil poor folks on welfare simply cause you have bought into some twisted untrue view that the majority of folks on welfare are living nice, lazy and eating good. It is simply not true! You have fell for a sterotype!!
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yeah, if they can do all that without forced slavery or servitude, I'm all for it.

    People have a choice. They can choose to accept a crumb, or to die quietly as to not bother any passers-by. At least the crumb can lead to a slice of the pie.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Same reason people get roommates - to share expenses.

    Obviously things like food and clothes cannot be pooled, but you would pay much less in utilities for 1 house having 10 people than 10 houses with a single occupant.

    That's what I was driving at - we pay too much welfare because we coddle these people. People on welfare shouldn't be afforded the ability to live on their own or with only their kids. Shouldn't be allowed a car, carte blanche at the supermarket, or any of myriad other privileges allowed to the working class.



    Well then I read it wrong. I thought you emboldened a part saying that a man's wife was taken and sold as a prostitute/chattel. Did I read it wrong?
    This is the USA! We are not some ****ing commie ass country that is gonna force people to live in tents! Why the hell do you even live here as you seem to lack the spirit that makes us the best country ever! Where is your heart and spirit towards others and wishing to help others?

    You wish to treat people living here in this free country as 2nd class citizens and it should not happen.
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I will repeat myself for you libs that need a hammer to the head to get a point and I will shout! THE PROGRAM IS A SUCCESS; IT HAS KEPT DRUGGIES FROM APPLYING FOR CASH PAYOUTS! Why do I try?
    LOL! We kinda veered offtopic. Sorry dude
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Same reason people get roommates - to share expenses.

    Obviously things like food and clothes cannot be pooled, but you would pay much less in utilities for 1 house having 10 people than 10 houses with a single occupant.

    That's what I was driving at - we pay too much welfare because we coddle these people. People on welfare shouldn't be afforded the ability to live on their own or with only their kids. Shouldn't be allowed a car, carte blanche at the supermarket, or any of myriad other privileges allowed to the working class.



    Well then I read it wrong. I thought you emboldened a part saying that a man's wife was taken and sold as a prostitute/chattel. Did I read it wrong?
    Actually the highlighted part was meant to show the effects of what would happen under your ideal

    Do you not think a woman might sell herself for sex to support her childern. It is not slavery as such but it just as much exploitation as slavery
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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Actually the highlighted part was meant to show the effects of what would happen under your ideal

    Do you not think a woman might sell herself for sex to support her childern. It is not slavery as such but it just as much exploitation as slavery
    I saw that constantly...many ladies of the night, not on drugs doing what they needed to do to survive are the ALL like that of course not...

    Honesty and I say this without any malicious intent...There are somethings you need higher education to learn and know..and I have to bow to those individuals that have more knowledge than me about a subject....but knowing the poor...knowing, not reading about it... you cant learn that in school or by foxnewsing it or msnbcing it.....you have to see it right up front and personal...if it doesnt do anything else ..it tells you the truth....you see the truth you hear it because your right there in it...

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    Re: 98 Percent of Welfare Applicants Pass Drug Test

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    This is the USA! We are not some ****ing commie ass country that is gonna force people to live in tents! Why the hell do you even live here as you seem to lack the spirit that makes us the best country ever! Where is your heart and spirit towards others and wishing to help others?

    You wish to treat people living here in this free country as 2nd class citizens and it should not happen.
    I'm happy to help those that need it, but it sounds like you want to provide the white glove service to them free of charge.
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