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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Im pretty sure he just disagrees with their message. Probably how you do not like how socialists, or communists, or and form of leftist protest you probably dont actually "hate them" you probably just disagree with the message they are spreading
    Seems to me that most that take this position can't even honestly state their message. IMO are just a Pavlovian response.

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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    Or perhaps we could just reject the utter, mindless dogmatism responsible for people conforming to an ideology so thoroughly that their very identity is wrapped up in it?

    I don't care whether it is "socialist", "Libertarian", "conservative" "tea partier" or "anarcho-syndicalist", if what rolls off people's tongues (or fingers in the case of the medium we are using here) amounts to nothing but the recitation of hackneyed, conformist talking points, then why bother?
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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    I see about everything except the basis of the study; the questions asked, the respondents demographics, cross tabs, etc etc. You know the things that show whether the study had merit or not. There is NO empirical evidence available to examine the findings. Big red flag there.

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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    I see about everything except the basis of the study; the questions asked, the respondents demographics, cross tabs, etc etc. You know the things that show whether the study had merit or not. There is NO empirical evidence available to examine the findings. Big red flag there.
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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    All groups with "good ideas" it seems become railroaded by the extremists.

    To mind comes the Sierra Club. Good idea of keeping our enviornment clean. I hate lazy arses who trash my wilderness but soon the club was taken over by the extremists.

    Same thing with the Tea Party when the Palin camp jumped onto the stage.

    Scum rises in a pond and often in groups such as this.
    In all seriousness, what was good about the tea party even before "extremists"? What was their message?
    It seemed pretty much to be nothing more than the old republican base from the very start - indifferent to the militia group of the 90's under Clinton.

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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    What's good about the "tea party" movement? Its concern on ever-growing, ever-encroaching federal power.

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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    In all seriousness, what was good about the tea party even before "extremists"? What was their message?
    That it was wrong to give tax payers money to the big investment banks so that they could continue giving their multi million dollar bonuses.

    From a source not biased to the Tea Party.

    If you remember, the Tea Parties were originally formed to protest the bailouts. They were so mad at the Wall Street bankers who destroyed the economy and then took our hard earned money for their efforts.

    Are you saying that you disagree with them there?

    Where Are the Tea Party Protests About Wall Street? | Disinformation

    P.S. the reason they didn't demand the Dodd/Frank reform bill and support it is because it makes bailouts accepted practice.
    Last edited by 1Perry; 08-22-11 at 10:09 AM.

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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    That it was wrong to give tax payers money to the big investment banks so that they could continue giving their multi million dollar bonuses.

    From a source not biased to the Tea Party.

    If you remember, the Tea Parties were originally formed to protest the bailouts. They were so mad at the Wall Street bankers who destroyed the economy and then took our hard earned money for their efforts.

    Are you saying that you disagree with them there?

    Where Are the Tea Party Protests About Wall Street? | Disinformation

    P.S. the reason they didn't demand the Dodd/Frank reform bill and support it is because it makes bailouts accepted practice.
    I take it you didn't read the entire article.
    Cenk Uygur: Where Are the Tea Party Protests About Wall Street?
    That's what the tea party claimed they were formed for.
    From your source.
    If you remember, the Tea Parties were originally formed to protest the bailouts. They were so mad at the Wall Street bankers who destroyed the economy and then took our hard earned money for their efforts.

    So, they will take this opportunity, of course, to launch their own protest of Wall Street. They will protest the TARP money, the easy credit, the lack of regulation, the wild risk taking and the excessive bonuses paid with taxpayer money. They're really going to take the fight to them.

    Just kidding. They're not going to do anything. They're going to sit out this fight on financial reform and put absolutely no pressure on Wall Street at all. Because they are tools easily manipulated by right-wing organizations funded by corporate America.
    Like Uygur wrote, if indeed the tea baggers were formed on the basis of protest and anger against wallstreet bailouts, in particular that of the million dollar bonuses those wallstreet fat cats received, why was there not even a single protest organized by the tea baggers and their funders on wallstreet?
    Why instead did we see those protests against Obama and democrats when they were voting on wallstreet reform and re-regulation of?
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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    What's good about the "tea party" movement? Its concern on ever-growing, ever-encroaching federal power.
    Really? I'm all ears, specifically how has government been growing since the tea-party came into existence?

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    Re: Survey’s surprising finding: tea party less popular than atheists and Muslims

    You cannot reasonably say we would be talking about any spending cuts without the political pressure the Tea Party influence on the 2010 misterms and the people they helped elect. Every sort of reduction in spending I see is down the road such and such years. The tea party position is to find waste and cut spending now, rather than later. It hasnt been part of the conversation in years. Its a good thing. More government should not always be the answer.

    Jfuh, a better question would be how much growth of the federal government led to the creation of the tea party, not the other way around.

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