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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Vs. Obama, you bet!! Bush didn't have a net job loss, didn't have 25 million unemployed and under employed, didn't have a credit downgrade, and didn't oversee 4 trillion added to the debt in 3 years.
    Here is Bush's record in his last year in office:

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Losses
    2008 137996 137913 137841 137656 137423 137245 137014 136747 136313 135804 135002 134383
    Job losses -13 -83 -72 -185 -233 -178 -231 -267 -434 -509 -802 -619 -3626

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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here is Bush's record in his last year in office:

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Losses
    2008 137996 137913 137841 137656 137423 137245 137014 136747 136313 135804 135002 134383
    Job losses -13 -83 -72 -185 -233 -178 -231 -267 -434 -509 -802 -619 -3626
    That argument fails when you realize that Obama had his economic policy implemented almost day one and was sold on the basis of shovel ready jobs. He lied to you then and his Administration officials lied when they said passing the stimulus would keep unemployment at 8% so how did that "Hope and Change" work out for you. You do realize that with the terrible 2008 numbers that Bushs still had a net job gain? As of today there are more unemployed, declining labor force as more and more drop out of the labor market due to dispair. This is 2 1/2 years later.

    My question is what were the Democrats in Congress doing during this period of time?

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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That argument fails when you realize that Obama had his economic policy implemented almost day one and was sold on the basis of shovel ready jobs.
    False. To say that Obama's economic policy began to be implemented on January 20, 2009 is, to put it nicely, complete BS.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-economic-pol/

    He lied to you then and his Administration officials lied when they said passing the stimulus would keep unemployment at 8% so how did that "Hope and Change" work out for you.
    I see, so Bush never "lied" about WMD's, but it's "lying" when Christine Romer and pretty much the whole economist community at large comes up with an inaccurate prediction.

    You do realize that with the terrible 2008 numbers that Bushs still had a net job gain? As of today there are more unemployed, declining labor force as more and more drop out of the labor market due to dispair. This is 2 1/2 years later.
    Rather irrelevant, considering Bush was handed a relatively stable economy when he took office, whereas Obama was handed a steaming pile of **** from day one.

    Your supreme addiction to causation vs. correlation logical fallacies remain unchanged, apparently.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 08-28-11 at 02:25 PM.

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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    False. To say that Obama's economic policy began to be implemented on January 20, 2009 is, to put it nicely, complete BS.

    PolitiFact | Obama says most job losses occurred before his economic policies took hold



    I see, so Bush never "lied" about WMD's, but it's "lying" when Christine Romer and pretty much the whole economist community at large comes up with an inaccurate prediction.



    Rather irrelevant, considering Bush was handed a relatively stable economy when he took office, whereas Obama was handed a steaming pile of **** from day one.

    Your supreme addiction to causation vs. correlation logical fallacies remain unchanged, apparently.
    When was the stimulus passed? What was the prediction with that stimulus plan? stop buying the rhetoric as it is making you look foolish.

    This isn't about Bush but if you want to go there check out the rhetoric of Congressional leaders and even Al Gore prior to Bush taking office. Selective memory is what liberals have as they just cannot accept the fact that you and others elected an empty suit, incompetent for the WH

    Bush was handed an economy going into recession then had 9/11 but that isn't even the issue today. I posted the Obama results 2 1/2 years after he was elected to "clean up" the Bush mess which of course "correlation does not equal causation" right? What was the Democrat controlled Senate doing in 2002 and what was the Democrat controlled Congress doing in 2007-2008. Who controls the legislation and purse strings?

    As I recall Obama was handed a AAA credit rating as well as a 10.4 trillion debt. Now that debt is 14.6 trillion. He was handed 12.6 million unemployed that is now 15.1. He was handed 14.1% in total unemployment that is now 16.1%.

    Your selective use of causation vs. correlation is quite telling. Bush is obviously responsible for all his actions and caused the mess that Obama "inherited" yet Obama isn't responsible for anything that has happened since he took office.

    Simple question though, Since Obama was part of the Congress how did he inherit what he helped create?
    Last edited by Conservative; 08-28-11 at 02:47 PM.

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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Clinton was a better President than the last 2 clowns put together.
    better than Obama for sure. Bush's supreme court picks (Roberts and Alito) are far stronger intellects than RBG and Breyer. Clinton had better luck for sure



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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here is Bush's record in his last year in office:

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Losses
    2008 137996 137913 137841 137656 137423 137245 137014 136747 136313 135804 135002 134383
    Job losses -13 -83 -72 -185 -233 -178 -231 -267 -434 -509 -802 -619 -3626
    you all voted the dems into power not us



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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you all voted the dems into power not us
    Correct, the numbers you quoted from me were in 2008 when Bush was President.

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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Correct, the numbers you quoted from me were in 2008 when Bush was President.
    Do they teach civics in Oregon? Democrats controlled the Congress which is the legislative process and purse strings. Seems you don't understand how our govt. works

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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When was the stimulus passed? What was the prediction with that stimulus plan? stop buying the rhetoric as it is making you look foolish.
    The stimulus didn't cause job loss, the Great Bush Recession did. Funny you haven't realized that its your rhetoric many of aren't buying.

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    Re: Obama's gift to Sasha and Malia should he be reelected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do they teach civics in Oregon?
    Of course they do.

    My 11 year old just finished up with "Essentials For Formation of the Workers Paradise", and next year he is slated for "Politburo Standing Commitee Dialectics in the Modern Proletariant State".
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