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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Slight difference between misspeaking, and getting substantive facts wrong. It looks like Perry has admitted the mistake and it's a done deal now, but to attack those pointing out his mistake(this is why Perry has had to admit his mistake, and fact checking is a good thing), or dismissing it because another politician made a mistake too is silly.
    Nobody attacked the OP. The post was extreme and distorted. Perry never claimed the regulation existed. And, again, his choice of verbs clearly indicate a future potential issue. Also, it was a fed thing. (Link: Federal government may force farmers to get CDL to operate on the road | Farm and Dairy - The Auction Guide and Rural Marketplace).

    My point stands. This was a simple mistake of timing based on an idea that was still ver much being mulled over up until a few days prior to Perry's speech. It was an opportunity to incite the people against a political enemy and every politician would have used the opportunity to sway voters to their side. I know of no modern politician who hasn't referenced proposed or potential legislation or regulation as a means of drawing appeal to an alternative. "Don't vote for them, they talked about raising your taxes." "Don't vote for them, they mentioned ending social security."

    The OP was an attempt to make Perry look either dumb, dishonest, or both. It failed because the article didn't provide a factual representation of the gaff. Of course, for those who will just follow blindly and jump on the "OMG, what an idiot" band wagon, I'm sure it was quite successful.
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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Nobody attacked the OP. The post was extreme and distorted. Perry never claimed the regulation existed. And, again, his choice of verbs clearly indicate a future potential issue.
    This is what Perry said:

    Let me give you just a — this is such an obscene, crazy regulation. They want to make — if you are a tractor driver, if you drive your tractor across a public road, you are going to have to have a commercial driver's license. Now, how idiotic is that?
    That statement is false.

    Also, it was a fed thing. (Link: Federal government may force farmers to get CDL to operate on the road | Farm and Dairy - The Auction Guide and Rural Marketplace).

    My point stands. This was a simple mistake of timing based on an idea that was still ver much being mulled over up until a few days prior to Perry's speech. It was an opportunity to incite the people against a political enemy and every politician would have used the opportunity to sway voters to their side. I know of no modern politician who hasn't referenced proposed or potential legislation or regulation as a means of drawing appeal to an alternative. "Don't vote for them, they talked about raising your taxes." "Don't vote for them, they mentioned ending social security."

    The OP was an attempt to make Perry look either dumb, dishonest, or both. It failed because the article didn't provide a factual representation of the gaff. Of course, for those who will just follow blindly and jump on the "OMG, what an idiot" band wagon, I'm sure it was quite successful.
    Again, you need to read your sources and the ones provided:

    n the statement, Anne S. Ferro, administrator for the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, said in many cases farmers and farm equipment don’t fall under federal truck safety regulations when they are transporting products short distances, either within the farm or to a local market.

    However, the lines of distinction aren’t always clear. So in May, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration sought public feedback on how existing commercial truck safety regulations impact the agricultural community.
    Read that last paragraph. Read it again. No blush and say you are sorry. When even your own source contradicts what you are saying and backs up explicitly what the OP source you took issue with said, that means something. Perry did not make a mistake in timing, he made a mistake in facts. He claimed a regulation was being considered to require a CDL permit for farmers, and no such regulation exists or has been proposed. Hell, they even did the process of reviewing the current regulation properly, asking for feedback from those effected and took their feedback seriously.
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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Hardly. If you are planning on running for President, you best do your homework. Hardly an unreasonable position. Unless you're a right wing apologist of course.
    Or just lie...

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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Disputatious71 View Post
    By this reasoning lets see all the phantom promises Obama didn't do his homework on, unless you're a left wing apologist of course ...
    So you spin this as if somehow it was equivalent to a campaign promise to somehow discredit Obama? Really? And you suggest I'm the apologist?

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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Or just lie...
    Is this the part where you admit Perry didn't do his homework? I suppose not. Tawn.

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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I read it. And I read the second link. They were seeking feedback because they were considering the regulation. After the received feedback they decided against regulation. It was up for consideration, and Perry's phrasing made it clear that the regulation didn't currently exist through his choice of verbs.

    The OP was spin.
    That is the take I got, I read his quotes and I didn't get the impression that he was claiming the regulations exist, although I could see how his opponents would attempt to capitalize on this..

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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Every politican confuses issues or mispeaks. Every single one.
    So let's see, Perry "Misspoke" or "confused" an issue did he? Really? Look the words up. You clearly "misunderstimate" their meaning.

    White is black. Up is down. In is out. The apologies are coming out of the woodwork.

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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    So let's see, Perry "Misspoke" or "confused" an issue did he? Really? Look the words up. You clearly "misunderstimate" their meaning.

    White is black. Up is down. In is out. The apologies are coming out of the woodwork.
    Perry didn't misspeak, what's the problem?

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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by deltabtry View Post
    Perry didn't misspeak, what's the problem?
    I didn't suggest he did. That would be Tessa.

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    Re: Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I didn't suggest he did. That would be Tessa.
    Yes your right, but through your post I got the impression that you concur with Tessa No? If not I apologize for being a boob, actually I'll apologize in advance just in case.

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