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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Property taxes are what again? If you build property on an empty piece of land, I pretty much guarantee you the property taxes will go up. Would you call a building a capital asset?
    Property taxes are a way to pay for local services. They are taxed, not on the basis of their declining value, or on their market value. They are based on a value which is determined on the basis of how much money the govt needs to fund its' operations.

    I'll now remind you of what you said:

    Capital assets are not taxed at the federal level. They are taxed by many states and local governments.
    If what you meant to say what "One type of capital asset is taxed" then that is what you should have said. "Capital assets" in general are NOT taxed. Real estate is, but that is just one type of capital asset. You have been unclear to the point of being misleading.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I've posted the links for you that shows the Tea Party is against corporate welfare. You aren't one to allow your bigotry to get in the way of facts are you?.
    Yes, well we can expect that from the Teapublicans where 19% of its members pay no income taxes.










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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure what you mean as welfare is giving our tax dollars to others, be it unwed mothers or coporations. Oddly, we give a hell of a lot more to corporations than unwed mothers, yet unwed mothers are far more demonized. Always struck me as a real skewed view of the world to do that.
    I like how you conveniently forget about all the people who stop looking for work so they can soak up unemployment benefits, or junk food perched with food stamps.

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Yes, well we can expect that from the Teapublicans where 19% of its members pay no income taxes.
    Never been great at math...but since you bring up the 19% of Tea Party folks that dont pay income tax with derision, you must absolutely ****ing HATE the 47% that dont...which puts the scumbag democrats that dont pay income taxes about 28% higher than the Tea party types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Never been great at math...but since you bring up the 19% of Tea Party folks that dont pay income tax with derision, you must absolutely ****ing HATE the 47% that dont...which puts the scumbag democrats that dont pay income taxes about 28% higher than the Tea party types.
    Sounds like rightwing fuzzy math
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I like how you conveniently forget about all the people who stop looking for work so they can soak up unemployment benefits, or junk food perched with food stamps.
    That's a serious assumption on your part. You will need significant evidence (not just some wingnut saying it is so) to support such a claim. But, even that, if it were true, would not come close to matching what we give corporations, corproations who still take their companies overseas in order to pay slave wages.

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    I notice that we still have yet to see a rightwinger identify any specific form of corporate welfare that they would support cutting.

    This proves that the rightwingers are full of lies. The rightwingers love welfare for their corporate masters
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Yes, well we can expect that from the Teapublicans where 19% of its members pay no income taxes.
    Well, when 40-50% of all American workers pay no taxes, one group having a 19% tax-free segment would seem SMALL in comparison to the national average, no?
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I like how you conveniently forget about all the people who stop looking for work so they can soak up unemployment benefits, or junk food perched with food stamps.
    I'd read the ntire link if I were you:

    Average taxpayers pick up an expensive tab for corporate welfare expenditures. Government spending for corporate welfare programs far exceeds government spending for social programs.

    1.Fact: Spending for corporate welfare programs outweighs spending for low-income programs by more than three to one: $167 billion to $51.7 billion (source: Aid for Dependent Corporations, from the Corporate Welfare Project and How Much Do We Spend on Welfare?, from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, FY 95 figures)


    2.Fact: Total federal spending on a safety net for the poor costs the average taxpayer about $400 a year, while spending on corporate welfare programs costs the same taxpayer about $1400 a year. (source: CBO figures)

    Facts on Corporate Welfare | OMB Watch

    I can give yoyu links that say it is even higher, but it depends on how you measure it as to what number you get. However, I would also add, if you want to count the unemployed during this recession, on the other side you have to add TARP and other bailouts. The wealthy even got more during this painful period. And while there is more outrage about that than usual corporate welfare, the demonizing still doesn't match what poor people and single mothers get routinely. I think that deserves some reflection on why?

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That's wrong, a person can be a hypocrite without realizing it.


    Hypocrite - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    Uhh no, putting on a false appearance requires a person to be deceptive, a hypocrite is doing this knowingly.
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