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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree tess profits are high all around....but were talking about giving BIG OIL free money...just tossing all the american parasites food money at big oil just cuz..
    Tess you havent explained to me...how, when big oil raises the price at the pump sky high...and usages goes down...they break profit records...now please explain to me how they arent ROBBING every single american including the parasites that can afford it the least..
    The teapartiers on here that rail on and on about parasitic poor americans getting a pittance for free...and senior on SS that they paid into for decades have NO Problem with big oil robbing them and driving the cost of EVERYTHING sky high...I cant compute that much hypocrisy sorry tess...
    Few things:

    Federal gas tax is 18.9 cents per gallon, state tax (Texas) is 20 cents. That's .39 cents or just over 10% of the total cost of a gallon (state average) (link here). The profit to the gas station per gallon is .16, not including CC fees (link here), so based on the 30% model, let's say they're getting about .53 cents per gallon. That puts us at .92 per gallon, or about 25% of the total cost of a gallon of gas.

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    Generally speaking, since there are so many variables to consider, precise cost breakdowns are difficult to ascertain. According to the Energy Information Administration (EIA), however, which issues the “Official Energy Statistics from the U.S. Government” the average cost at the pump for a gallon of gasoline is broken down as follows:

    •74% - Cost of the crude oil
    •11% - Taxes
    •10% - Refining costs
    •5% - Distribution and marketing

    In a simple illustration, let’s assume an oil company is paying $100 for a barrel (42 gallons) of basic crude oil. Their cost for a gallon will be about $2.38. At a gasoline-pump price of $4.00 per gallon, 44 cents has to pay for taxes and 20 cents for distribution and marketing expenses. This leaves $3.36 for the oil companies. Out of that total they have to pay for the cost of the gallon of crude oil itself which was $2.38 and also the 40 cents to refine it into gasoline. This leaves $0.58 profit per gallon of gasoline. As noted, however, depending on which report one looks at, this profit-margin can range anywhere between an estimated 30 to 60 cents per gallon.
    Refinery Oil Prices - Cost To Refine Oil Into Gasoline | What It Costs

    So, they're making a 10 to 30% profit per gallon of gas....which is about right for the SOP of most businesses.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Of course it is and its the Hypocrisy of my fellow conservatives that drove me away from them....oh giving rich and greedy money just because they want it...is perfectly fine and defensible ....giving money to an individual that needs it...is another parasite sucking the richs blood....BULL S
    Both are true scenarios. There are corporate greedy bastards and there are parasite sucking people gaming the system. Most corporations are not though just like most people needing help are not parasites. Yet we have to be able to discuss both and accept that both do have their abusers, and be able to agree that the abusers need to be addressed and dealt with.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Few things:

    Federal gas tax is 18.9 cents per gallon, state tax (Texas) is 20 cents. That's .39 cents or just over 10% of the total cost of a gallon (state average) (link here). The profit to the gas station per gallon is .16, not including CC fees (link here), so based on the 30% model, let's say they're getting about .53 cents per gallon. That puts us at .92 per gallon, or about 25% of the total cost of a gallon of gas.

    ...you know what? This is better:


    Refinery Oil Prices - Cost To Refine Oil Into Gasoline | What It Costs

    So, they're making a 10 to 30% profit per gallon of gas....which is about right for the SOP of most businesses.
    And the rightwingers still haven't identified one corporate welfare program they would support ending
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Congress is looking for sizable spending cuts in the months ahead, and voters see three so-called “corporate welfare” programs as potential candidates for the chopping block - farm subsidies, aid to large corporations to promote export sales and funding to help other countries buy U.S.-made weapons.


    All the things the teapary never talks about...if it doesnt have social security or medicare or tax cuts for the rich...its not on their table


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    Just cause you SAY it...doesnt make it true. Just because you WANT to demonize Tea Party supporters doesnt mean you have a clue about them.

    "Huge deficits and debt and yet the only answer is to raise taxes, provide bailouts to failed businesses, and create massive new government spending programs on borrowed money. These events, in the eyes of many participants in the Tea Party Movement, threaten our country’s stability and the prosperity of the next generations, their children and grandchildren and beyond."

    Obviously the Tea Party supporters are opposed to the bailouts and are FOR responsible government spending. Shockingly, according to YOUR article...so are about 71% of the people in the country. 68% of the country are opposed to corporate welfare, inline with the Tea Party position. 79% of the 'mainstream are opposed to cash to foreign countries for weapons purchases...I think you would be hard pressed to find too many Tea Party supporters that would disagree...though im sure you could find SOME (just like you can find some mainstream support as well).

    The beyond idiotic part is that you spend all your time worrying about the TEA PARTY (as if it were an actual party) and not on YOUR parties which have so completely ****ed everything up.

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So do you support ending govt subsidies and tax credits for corn, soy or wheat farmers? Yes or no?
    Until all subsidies are dealt with in an even and fair manner, I do not support specifically targeting one industry because of lack of popularity.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Just cause you SAY it...doesnt make it true. Just because you WANT to demonize Tea Party supporters doesnt mean you have a clue about them.

    "Huge deficits and debt and yet the only answer is to raise taxes, provide bailouts to failed businesses, and create massive new government spending programs on borrowed money. These events, in the eyes of many participants in the Tea Party Movement, threaten our country’s stability and the prosperity of the next generations, their children and grandchildren and beyond."

    Obviously the Tea Party supporters are opposed to the bailouts and are FOR responsible government spending. Shockingly, according to YOUR article...so are about 71% of the people in the country. 68% of the country are opposed to corporate welfare, inline with the Tea Party position. 79% of the 'mainstream are opposed to cash to foreign countries for weapons purchases...I think you would be hard pressed to find too many Tea Party supporters that would disagree...though im sure you could find SOME (just like you can find some mainstream support as well).

    The beyond idiotic part is that you spend all your time worrying about the TEA PARTY (as if it were an actual party) and not on YOUR parties which have so completely ****ed everything up.
    "Tea party position blah, blah, blah" and on and on with the blather. But the rightwingers still can't identify any corporate welfare programs they would support ending
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Until all subsidies are dealt with in an even and fair manner, I do not support specifically targeting one industry because of lack of popularity.
    So you can't even identify one corporate welfare program unless everyone gets cut, but you're all for ending free lunches to children in Detroit even though it targets only one group of people?

    Targetting one industry = BAD
    Targetting one group of children = GREAT!!!
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Few things:

    Federal gas tax is 18.9 cents per gallon, state tax (Texas) is 20 cents. That's .39 cents or just over 10% of the total cost of a gallon (state average) (link here). The profit to the gas station per gallon is .16, not including CC fees (link here), so based on the 30% model, let's say they're getting about .53 cents per gallon. That puts us at .92 per gallon, or about 25% of the total cost of a gallon of gas.

    ...you know what? This is better:


    Refinery Oil Prices - Cost To Refine Oil Into Gasoline | What It Costs

    So, they're making a 10 to 30% profit per gallon of gas....which is about right for the SOP of most businesses.
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    Tess thats all true...We agree but it doesnt mean anything in correlation to WHY...when big oil drives the prices sky high at the pump and usage goes DOWn they break profit records...and were talking billions...

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you can't even identify one corporate welfare program unless everyone gets cut, but you're all for ending free lunches to children in Detroit even though it targets only one group of people?

    Targetting one industry = BAD
    Targetting one group of children = GREAT!!!
    I never said that.
    Stop putting words into my mouth.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I never said that.
    Stop putting words into my mouth.
    I still don't see you identifying any corporate welfare programs that you would support ending. Your argument is that it is unfair to end the oil depletion allowance unless we end it for every industry. Do you understand how nutty that is?
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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