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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The vote wasn't for 1 or 2 or part of the deduction/tax credit terminations. It was for all of them. The bill didn't give you the option to cherry pick. You either vote to discriminate against an industry through the tax code, or you don't. You either open the government up for an expensive lawsuit over 1/365th of our yearly budget, or you don't.
    I am asking YOU which YOU support.

    You don't get to vote for legislation in Congress. I'm just asking, since you claim to be against welfare and big govt, which of those corporate welfare programs you would support ending. Not surprisngly, all I got in response was blather
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I don't think it's that cut and dry. Profits on oil are ridiculous all around, but speculators and OPEC have a lot to do with that. Look at how rich the Saudis are.
    I agree tess profits are high all around....but were talking about giving BIG OIL free money...just tossing all the american parasites food money at big oil just cuz..
    Tess you havent explained to me...how, when big oil raises the price at the pump sky high...and usages goes down...they break profit records...now please explain to me how they arent ROBBING every single american including the parasites that can afford it the least..
    The teapartiers on here that rail on and on about parasitic poor americans getting a pittance for free...and senior on SS that they paid into for decades have NO Problem with big oil robbing them and driving the cost of EVERYTHING sky high...I cant compute that much hypocrisy sorry tess...

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    1. I never said I affiliated with the tea party.
    2. Using stupid terminology makes you look stupid. Consider that.
    No, you're not "affilated" with the teabaggers. You just defend them in your posts

    3. I never said I support "corporate welfare", but I did say that I do not support discriminatory tax code, which this bill would have created. You should oppose discriminatory tax code too, but from what I've seen all you care about is taxing the crap out of business and "the rich" without providing any real justification for why other than the old, worn out, "they can afford it/they deserve it, etc".
    I don't see you saying which of those programs you would support ending. Once again, the rightwingers are great at making big claims about opposing spending and big govt, but when it comes time to actually cutting these programs, all we get is blather instead of seeing them actually oppose any of these corporate welfare programs.


    4. When you decide you want to have an intellectually honest, fair debate using facts and evidence to support your claims, and when you decide you want to debate maturely without the use of stupid insultory language and hyperbole, you let me know. Until then the idiocy is back on ignore.
    When you actually state your support for ending any corporate welfare programs, then I'll believe that your claims to being opposed to corporate welfare are honest. So far, in spite of several links describing several welfare programs for corps, I have yet to see you state opposition to any one of them.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No the problem with this legislation is that it is selective punishment/discrimination.
    Only being done because oil companies aren't popular.

    Kinda like the attacks on corporate welfare to Planned Parenthood.
    SO you still won't state which programs you oppose? I guess that means you oppose ending the oil depletion allowance because it targets one industry, and you oppose ending the others because it doesn't target one industry
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why stop at oil companies, why not go after every industry that has "record profits?"
    You listen to too many politicians, seeing your use of the "record profits" line.
    So do you support eliminating tax credits and subsidies to every profitable industry, or are the rightwingers willing to do nothing more than pay lip service to the idea of ending corporate welfare?
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Im sure you are...but im not...govt welfare helps indviduals that dont have anything to dont have much and programs like SS and medicare that working people pay into all their lives...

    Big oil never loses a penny...they raise the price their profits soar...they gouge us they break records...Im very surprised an intelligent fella like you cant see the difference and I mean that sincerely....who needs it who is stealing
    Don't fall for the rightwing word games. Corporate welfare *IS* govt welfare.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Apple's Q2 profits broke records and were higher than the Q2 profits for most oil companies. Want to go after Apple as well? Their products are about 250% higher in cost than their PC counter parts.
    So do you support or oppose ending corporate welfare for Apple?

    Funny how the rightwingers love to claim how they oppose welfare and govt involvement in the economy, but they never can say if they oppose any welfare programs that subsidize corporations
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Paying for fuel has never really been a problem for me.

    Pears and spinach don't get the freebies like, corn, soy and wheat do.
    Everyone is "greedy" no one is exempt.
    Don't selectively go after one group, when you are just as "greedy" as they are.
    So do you support ending govt subsidies and tax credits for corn, soy or wheat farmers? Yes or no?
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Don't fall for the rightwing word games. Corporate welfare *IS* govt welfare.

    Of course it is and its the Hypocrisy of my fellow conservatives that drove me away from them....oh giving rich and greedy money just because they want it...is perfectly fine and defensible ....giving money to an individual that needs it...is another parasite sucking the richs blood....BULL S

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Thats a cold naive statement harry...paying for fuel has never been a problem for YOU...nor me what about the walmart workers...and look you blew my entire post off ...you didnt acknowledge or debunkt a single point I made....no matter what lipstick you put on that pig...BIG OIL ROBS US in every aspect of our lives when they gouge us at the pump...and all you conservative teapartiers ...have no problem with big oil robbing you..but you loathe for a poor person to get a nickle....this is one of the things that made me say screw the republican party
    And, more importantly, for all their blather, the rightwingers STILL haven't identified any specific corporate welfare programs that they think should be ended
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