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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm more concerned about government welfare.

    Im sure you are...but im not...govt welfare helps indviduals that dont have anything to dont have much and programs like SS and medicare that working people pay into all their lives...

    Big oil never loses a penny...they raise the price their profits soar...they gouge us they break records...Im very surprised an intelligent fella like you cant see the difference and I mean that sincerely....who needs it who is stealing

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Simply because they DONT NEED IT...they are the richest industry in this country that NEVER loses a dime...and everytime the jack the price through the roof they break their last profit record...thats why. They are so full of cash they gave a ceo a 400 million retirement package...wth are we giving them additiona tax credits and subsidies for...while the teaparty wants to cut working americans intestines out...something really stinks
    Apple's Q2 profits broke records and were higher than the Q2 profits for most oil companies. Want to go after Apple as well? Their products are about 250% higher in cost than their PC counter parts.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Im sure you are...but im not...govt welfare helps indviduals that dont have anything to dont have much and programs like SS and medicare that working people pay into all their lives...

    Big oil never loses a penny...they raise the price their profits soar...they gouge us they break records...Im very surprised an intelligent fella like you cant see the difference and I mean that sincerely....who needs it who is stealing
    Oil companies don't set the price. The markets do. Government has subsidized those markets. You want lower oil prices and profits? Cut off these subsidies to Wall Street.

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why stop at oil companies, why not go after every industry that has "record profits?"
    You listen to too many politicians, seeing your use of the "record profits" line.

    I agree lets go after all of them that are making tons of money and stop the madness...however, lets do a comparison ok ? Lets take big oil and big farms both get subsidies......big farms do not have the luxury of driving their prices through the roof to gouge us...lets use pears and spinach...if big farms decide to gouge us with the price of those two they will FAIL...pears and spinach will rot on the shelves and people will buy apples and broccoli. We as consumers have alternative sources and choices to buy food....now lets take big oil....they have ZERO competition...there are no alternatives...people MUST buy gas and oil to heat their homes....When big oil raises the prices when it gets to the 3.50 to 4.00 mark usage drops by 2-6% yet they break PROFIT records and give their ceos 400,000,000 retirement packages thats to use turtledudes terminology the money of all americans including the parasites feeding the pigs at the trough.
    When big oil gouges us its not just oil that goes up..they cripple us with higher electric costs, the cost of carpets goes sky high any product made with petroleum goes through the roof..local govts put tax surcharges because of fuel costs for govt vehicles..like MINE DOES..garbage haulers put surcharges because of the cost of fuel...lets really get into the PAIN for the peasants....FOOD PRICES SOAR cost of running farm machinery and harvesting and SHIPPING costs...the costs of shipping goes through the roof....harry come on man...im all for capitolism and I do not believe in socialism...but I also believe that THEIVES AND CROOKS should be behind bars...just because your a corporation does not give you the righ to "F" the entire country in every aspect of their lives for GREED...sorry buddy we part company on big oil they are ROBBING every working american in this country every single day....the funny part is they are robbing the taxpayers that are doing all the whining about the PARASITES robbing them while the defend the corporate parasites....theres a big divide in this country thats going to get alot wider...and in the end...I predict the 15% rich are going to lose this battle, they have gone to far

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree lets go after all of them that are making tons of money and stop the madness...however, lets do a comparison ok ? Lets take big oil and big farms both get subsidies......big farms do not have the luxury of driving their prices through the roof to gouge us...lets use pears and spinach...if big farms decide to gouge us with the price of those two they will FAIL...pears and spinach will rot on the shelves and people will buy apples and broccoli. We as consumers have alternative sources and choices to buy food....now lets take big oil....they have ZERO competition...there are no alternatives...people MUST buy gas and oil to heat their homes....When big oil raises the prices when it gets to the 3.50 to 4.00 mark usage drops by 2-6% yet they break PROFIT records and give their ceos 400,000,000 retirement packages thats to use turtledudes terminology the money of all americans including the parasites feeding the pigs at the trough.
    When big oil gouges us its not just oil that goes up..they cripple us with higher electric costs, the cost of carpets goes sky high any product made with petroleum goes through the roof..local govts put tax surcharges because of fuel costs for govt vehicles..like MINE DOES..garbage haulers put surcharges because of the cost of fuel...lets really get into the PAIN for the peasants....FOOD PRICES SOAR cost of running farm machinery and harvesting and SHIPPING costs...the costs of shipping goes through the roof....harry come on man...im all for capitolism and I do not believe in socialism...but I also believe that THEIVES AND CROOKS should be behind bars...just because your a corporation does not give you the righ to "F" the entire country in every aspect of their lives for GREED...sorry buddy we part company on big oil they are ROBBING every working american in this country every single day....the funny part is they are robbing the taxpayers that are doing all the whining about the PARASITES robbing them while the defend the corporate parasites....theres a big divide in this country thats going to get alot wider...and in the end...I predict the 15% rich are going to lose this battle, they have gone to far
    People aren't buying stock in pear and spinach futures, artificially fixing the price. But that happens with oil. It isn't as cut and dry as "competition".
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree lets go after all of them that are making tons of money and stop the madness...however, lets do a comparison ok ? Lets take big oil and big farms both get subsidies......big farms do not have the luxury of driving their prices through the roof to gouge us...lets use pears and spinach...if big farms decide to gouge us with the price of those two they will FAIL...pears and spinach will rot on the shelves and people will buy apples and broccoli. We as consumers have alternative sources and choices to buy food....now lets take big oil....they have ZERO competition...there are no alternatives...people MUST buy gas and oil to heat their homes....When big oil raises the prices when it gets to the 3.50 to 4.00 mark usage drops by 2-6% yet they break PROFIT records and give their ceos 400,000,000 retirement packages thats to use turtledudes terminology the money of all americans including the parasites feeding the pigs at the trough.
    When big oil gouges us its not just oil that goes up..they cripple us with higher electric costs, the cost of carpets goes sky high any product made with petroleum goes through the roof..local govts put tax surcharges because of fuel costs for govt vehicles..like MINE DOES..garbage haulers put surcharges because of the cost of fuel...lets really get into the PAIN for the peasants....FOOD PRICES SOAR cost of running farm machinery and harvesting and SHIPPING costs...the costs of shipping goes through the roof....harry come on man...im all for capitolism and I do not believe in socialism...but I also believe that THEIVES AND CROOKS should be behind bars...just because your a corporation does not give you the righ to "F" the entire country in every aspect of their lives for GREED...sorry buddy we part company on big oil they are ROBBING every working american in this country every single day....the funny part is they are robbing the taxpayers that are doing all the whining about the PARASITES robbing them while the defend the corporate parasites....theres a big divide in this country thats going to get alot wider...and in the end...I predict the 15% rich are going to lose this battle, they have gone to far
    Paying for fuel has never really been a problem for me.

    Pears and spinach don't get the freebies like, corn, soy and wheat do.
    Everyone is "greedy" no one is exempt.
    Don't selectively go after one group, when you are just as "greedy" as they are.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    People aren't buying stock in pear and spinach futures, artificially fixing the price. But that happens with oil. It isn't as cut and dry as "competition".
    Thats true tess the panhandling traders run the price per barrel up....but explain this to me please...If it was just the price of a barrel then it would be the arabs and traders making RECORD profits...explain to me how the price of gas goes up...USAGE goes down and big oil breaks another profit record...dont be conned tess...the traders and the barrel price rising is just the vehicle for big oil to raise prices through the roof and gouge our eyes out..

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Paying for fuel has never really been a problem for me.

    Pears and spinach don't get the freebies like, corn, soy and wheat do.
    Everyone is "greedy" no one is exempt.
    Don't selectively go after one group, when you are just as "greedy" as they are.
    Thats a cold naive statement harry...paying for fuel has never been a problem for YOU...nor me what about the walmart workers...and look you blew my entire post off ...you didnt acknowledge or debunkt a single point I made....no matter what lipstick you put on that pig...BIG OIL ROBS US in every aspect of our lives when they gouge us at the pump...and all you conservative teapartiers ...have no problem with big oil robbing you..but you loathe for a poor person to get a nickle....this is one of the things that made me say screw the republican party

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Thats true tess the panhandling traders run the price per barrel up....but explain this to me please...If it was just the price of a barrel then it would be the arabs and traders making RECORD profits...
    They are.

    explain to me how the price of gas goes up...USAGE goes down and big oil breaks another profit record...dont be conned tess...the traders and the barrel price rising is just the vehicle for big oil to raise prices through the roof and gouge our eyes out..
    Indeed. It doesn't cost more to remove a barrel of oil when the prices go up. (at least not equally so). If your conspiracy theories held any water they oil companies would just charge $6.00 a gallon for gas.

    Cut off the subsidies to Wall Street and prices will fall along with profits.

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Thats true tess the panhandling traders run the price per barrel up....but explain this to me please...If it was just the price of a barrel then it would be the arabs and traders making RECORD profits...explain to me how the price of gas goes up...USAGE goes down and big oil breaks another profit record...dont be conned tess...the traders and the barrel price rising is just the vehicle for big oil to raise prices through the roof and gouge our eyes out..
    I don't think it's that cut and dry. Profits on oil are ridiculous all around, but speculators and OPEC have a lot to do with that. Look at how rich the Saudis are.
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