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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    depletion allowances for oil? that's not generic, that's specific.
    I said there was 1 specific tax credit for oil and gas production.

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    and the above is the problem i have with froreign income tax exemptions. the fact is, oil companies don't need any subsidies to continue with their record profits, especially when we are eliminating programs for the needy.
    Money not earned in the U.S, which doesn't use U.S. infrastructure, should not be taxed by any U.S. government entity.
    Watch out with that loaded language, "record profits" are talking point words.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    This article seems to provide some of the reasoning behind the vote. Looks to me like my suggestion for handling corporate taxation would have answered to some of the concerns expressed over this bill.

    Senate GOP Votes Down Bill To End Big Oil Subsidies
    Translation: Teabaggers are against corporate welfare except when they're for it (which is almost always)
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Out of the 5 (iirc) there was 1 specific tax credit for gas and oil production.
    The rest were generic tax write offs that every business gets to take.
    And so you support all of them? Just the 1 specific tax credit? Or the other four?

    Fnny how it's impossible to get a rightwinger to state their support for repealing any corporate welfare. When asked, All we get is blather
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    And the next gain was only $12 billion a year. I'm seeing daily government spending ranging from $9 billion to $11 billion. So if that brilliant little law had been passed we'd have made enough money to pay for slightly more than 1 day of government operation. And we would have been explicitly targeting one industry, removing tax credits which are universal to all other forms of industry, and opening the government up for a lawsuit that would (I'm sure) end up costing more than the expected revenues from this bill.
    So you support those corporate welfare programs?

    Gee, and I thought the teabaggers were all about opposing corporate welfare
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And so you support all of them? Just the 1 specific tax credit? Or the other four?

    Fnny how it's impossible to get a rightwinger to state their support for repealing any corporate welfare. When asked, All we get is blather
    The vote wasn't for 1 or 2 or part of the deduction/tax credit terminations. It was for all of them. The bill didn't give you the option to cherry pick. You either vote to discriminate against an industry through the tax code, or you don't. You either open the government up for an expensive lawsuit over 1/365th of our yearly budget, or you don't.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you support those corporate welfare programs?

    Gee, and I thought the teabaggers were all about opposing corporate welfare
    1. I never said I affiliated with the tea party.
    2. Using stupid terminology makes you look stupid. Consider that.
    3. I never said I support "corporate welfare", but I did say that I do not support discriminatory tax code, which this bill would have created. You should oppose discriminatory tax code too, but from what I've seen all you care about is taxing the crap out of business and "the rich" without providing any real justification for why other than the old, worn out, "they can afford it/they deserve it, etc".
    4. When you decide you want to have an intellectually honest, fair debate using facts and evidence to support your claims, and when you decide you want to debate maturely without the use of stupid insultory language and hyperbole, you let me know. Until then the idiocy is back on ignore.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And so you support all of them? Just the 1 specific tax credit? Or the other four?

    Fnny how it's impossible to get a rightwinger to state their support for repealing any corporate welfare. When asked, All we get is blather
    No the problem with this legislation is that it is selective punishment/discrimination.
    Only being done because oil companies aren't popular.

    Kinda like the attacks on corporate welfare to Planned Parenthood.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Those aren't "big oil subsidies."
    They are tax credits that all businesses get to take.

    Why target one industry for the elimination?
    Simply because they DONT NEED IT...they are the richest industry in this country that NEVER loses a dime...and everytime the jack the price through the roof they break their last profit record...thats why. They are so full of cash they gave a ceo a 400 million retirement package...wth are we giving them additiona tax credits and subsidies for...while the teaparty wants to cut working americans intestines out...something really stinks
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Simply because they DONT NEED IT...they are the richest industry in this country that NEVER loses a dime...and everytime the jack the price through the roof they break their last profit record...thats why.
    Why stop at oil companies, why not go after every industry that has "record profits?"
    You listen to too many politicians, seeing your use of the "record profits" line.
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    Re: Voters See These ‘Corporate Welfare’ Programs As A Good Place To Cut Government S

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Congress is looking for sizable spending cuts in the months ahead, and voters see three so-called “corporate welfare” programs as potential candidates for the chopping block - farm subsidies, aid to large corporations to promote export sales and funding to help other countries buy U.S.-made weapons.


    All the things the teapary never talks about...if it doesnt have social security or medicare or tax cuts for the rich...its not on their table


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    I'm more concerned about government welfare.

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