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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Um, the proposed standards do not dictate a 33.3 mpg increase in mileage for big trucks.
    Well, what did you mean by this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The standards would move the average mileage from 6 to 8.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Do you believe that the Federal Government should dictate to manufacturers what they should build and the specs it should produce?
    I do not believe we have done our best here. I believe we have dropped the ball. I don't know what the actual solution is but results that are in line with 1950's standards should not be accepted.

    I noted above that I would have liked to have bought a new truck. Not going to happen with fuel ratings of 12-15 mpg. A Corvette back in the day would get maybe in the mid low teens on a good day on the road. Today they will get in the upper 20's and outperform the old car.

    There is no reason we shouldn't have seen similiar gains in other vehicles by now. I can be done. It just hasn't been. It's not acceptable.
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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Well, I was correct about the definition. Am I able to vote? Before I answer, would you mind letting me know why you would ask the question?
    You were correct about one of the definitions, but not the one that is most useful in this discussion.

    The reason I am asking was because of my earlier point about the type of government we have.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Well, what did you mean by this?
    I think Deuce is thinking whole numbers while you are thinking in percentages.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Um, the proposed standards do not dictate a 33.3 mpg increase in mileage for big trucks.
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    He stated a 33.3 % increase in the fuel milage, not a 33.3 mpg increase
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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I'm certainly mixed on this. I see these trucks sitting and idling and I know that we could come up with a way for them to still operate without sitting around idling all day. I refuse to believe that we couldn't have created more efficient vehicles over the last 60 years. Semi's in the 50's could get 6 mpg.

    We currently can. Companies can equip trucks with small diesel generators to run AC, radio, ect but many do not due to the higher initial cost (several $K) even tho they can pay for themselves in the long run in fuel savings. Like so many things people will avoid because all they see is the $$ now and not the long term advantages.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    More over-regulation. Someone needs to make a video and call it, "Gubmint Gone Wild".

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Well, what did you mean by this?
    ... 2 is substantially lower than 33.3?

    edit: Oh, you meant percentage. You put the word percentage in the next sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
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    He stated a 33.3 % increase in the fuel milage, not a 33.3 mpg increase
    That's what he meant, but that's not what he stated.

    So, to discuss the point he meant to make, I think it's an attainable goal at a reasonable cost. If you've got some industry experts with detailed numbers, I'm interested in seeing them. (not being an engineer and whatnot)
    Last edited by Deuce; 08-13-11 at 10:01 PM.
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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    You were correct about one of the definitions, but not the one that is most useful in this discussion.

    The reason I am asking was because of my earlier point about the type of government we have.
    I have been correct on all definitions.

    My first vote was made in 1968 and I have voted in every election since then. Not sure what this has to do with the type of government we have, but..........

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I have been correct on all definitions.

    My first vote was made in 1968 and I have voted in every election since then. Not sure what this has to do with the type of government we have, but..........
    So, you don't know the difference between a democracy and an authoritarian style of government?

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