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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How often does a Corvette pull 4 times it's own weight? Hook up a trailer that gross's out at 10 thousand pounds and see how much fuel mileage it gets.
    Really irrelevant. We doubled or nearly doubled the mileage, made it cleaner and more powerful. We can improve long haul truck numbers if we set out to do it.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok. Show us where it's going to be cheaper to operate these new fangled vehicles. Can't wait!
    I asked you for numbers several times but got nothing.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Really irrelevant. We doubled or nearly doubled the mileage, made it cleaner and more powerful. We can improve long haul truck numbers if we set out to do it.
    A corvette only has to move it's own weight. So, it's very relevant when you're talking about the difference in the energy required to move 2,000 pounds and 80,000 pounds+.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I asked you for numbers several times but got nothing.
    Let's see your numbers. Tell us how it's going to be cheaper and save the working class money.

    This is gonna be good.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Have you checked the fuel mileage on your garden variety freight train, lately?
    Yep:

    "For all movements, rail fuel efficiency is higher than truck fuel efficiency in terms of ton-miles per gallon. The ratio between rail and truck fuel efficiency indicates how much more fuel efficient rail is in comparison to trucks."
    www.fra.dot.gov/.../Comparative_Evaluation_Rail_Truck_Fuel_Efficiency
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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    God forbid anyone use a little common sense.
    Still nothing to back up your claim I see!
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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's see your numbers. Tell us how it's going to be cheaper and save the working class money.

    This is gonna be good.
    You're the one that claimed this would have some sort of serious impact on small business. I'm not going to do your homework for you.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yep:

    "For all movements, rail fuel efficiency is higher than truck fuel efficiency in terms of ton-miles per gallon. The ratio between rail and truck fuel efficiency indicates how much more fuel efficient rail is in comparison to trucks."
    www.fra.dot.gov/.../Comparative_Evaluation_Rail_Truck_Fuel_Efficiency
    You realize that it takes the same amount of energy for a train to move X-tons of freight Y-miles, as a truck, right?

    The trick math that they use to claim that a train can move 1 ton of freight 4 hundred-odd miles, is a load of ****.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You realize that it takes the same amount of energy for a train to move X-tons of freight Y-miles, as a truck, right?

    The trick math that they use to claim that a train can move 1 ton of freight 4 hundred-odd miles, is a load of ****.
    Only if you assume that the efficiency of converting heat energy to motive force between the two modes of transportation is the same.
    It's not.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: CAFE standards for big rigs.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A corvette only has to move it's own weight. So, it's very relevant when you're talking about the difference in the energy required to move 2,000 pounds and 80,000 pounds+.
    I'm not expecting a doubling in gas mileage. 30 years ago if you would have said that a Corvette would get in the upper 20's, do it cleanly and with more power it would have been said that it couldn't be done.

    Part of the country's problem is that we have lost our vision for what we can do. Go to the moon? Are you crazy, can't be done.

    We've just been complacent here.
    Last edited by 1Perry; 08-14-11 at 09:58 PM.

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