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    Farmers may have to get CDL's

    Oh, no, there's nothing wrong with an out of control, over-regulating government that is looking to hit people with any kind of new regulation--in this case a new application of an old regulation--so that they can take more money out of the pockets of the citizens and put more money into the coffers of the government.

    The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, which is a part of DOT, wants to adopt standards that would reclassify all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles, officials said. Likewise, the proposal, if adopted, would require all farmers and everyone on the farm who operates any of the equipment to obtain a CDL, they added.

    The proposed rule change would mean that anyone who drives a tractor or operates any piece of motorized farming equipment would be required to pass the same tests and complete the same detailed forms and logs required of semi-tractor trailer drivers.

    Proposed rule on farms called
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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    Way to regulate everyone out of business.
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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Way to regulate everyone out of business.
    I believe that's the whole objective, anyway.

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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    Idiots. You have a room full of bureaucrats who only suck from the economy with nothing to do sitting around coming up with ideas to try and justify their existance.

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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    The company I'm working for is going through something similar. We are being made to follow very literal interpretations of regulations. In the past, we only had to show our FAA POI (basically an assigned supervisor of sorts) a checklist and he'd give us the ok to use it. This last week, our new FAA POI told us all checklists had to be approved by him through a formal letter, a process can take 30 days or more. And the guy that is approving the checklist is not qualified to fly the aircraft he's approving. That's just one of probably 20 new paperwork processes that have slowed our progress. It doesn't improve safety. It actually slows us down and prevents us from implementing necessary changes quickly.
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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    did the DOT come up with a rationale for this?
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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    did the DOT come up with a rationale for this?
    The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) sought public comment on three issues related to the applicability of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs) to operators of farm vehicles: first, the interpretation of interstate commerce as it applies to movement of farm products; second, whether farmers operating under share-cropping agreements are common or contract carriers; and third, whether FMCSA should issue new guidance on implements of husbandary. After considering comments from the public, FMCSA has determined that no further guidance is needed on interpreting interstate commerce and implements of husbandary. FMCSA is issuing guidance that farmers operating under share-cropping or similar agreements are not common or contract carriers and, therefore, are eligible for the CDL exemption if a State elects to adopt the exemption.
    General Notice: Regulatory Guidance: Applicability of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations to Operators of Certain Farm Vehicles and Off-Road Agricultural Equipment - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

    Reading the summary, it appear Apdst is wrong. As usual.

    And I expect a commercial carrier who's hauling tons of agricultural products around in huge trucks to have CDLs.
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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    wants to adopt standards that would reclassify all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles,

    All vehicles. Not just large commercial trucks. And it says it allows the states certain exemptions. More paperwork and regulations for the states to have to deal with.

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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    wants to adopt standards that would reclassify all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles,

    All vehicles. Not just large commercial trucks. And it says it allows the states certain exemptions. More paperwork and regulations for the states to have to deal with.
    Basically if you're not a common or contract carrier, you have nothing to fear. Reading. It helps!

    And I expect large contract carriers with huge trucks to have CDLs. The same way I expect someone moving a large back hoe down the freeway to have a CDL even if he works for a small construction company. The same way I expect the guys driving the massive trailers delivering mountains of beer to bars to have a CDLs. Have you SEEN the size of some of the trucks hauling grain?

    The problem with you anti-regulation people is that you haven't got burned by lack of regulation. And you people automatically assume the worst about all laws.
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    Re: Farmer may have to get CDL's

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Basically if you're not a common or contract carrier, you have nothing to fear. Reading. It helps!
    It doesn't say that.

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