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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What exactly is "conservative social policies"?

    You do realise that the problems that in part are responsible for this mess are due to former conservative governments, and especially Maggie Thatcher and the the great conservative British Empire and before that ...
    No, I don't.

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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What exactly is "conservative social policies"?

    You do realise that the problems that in part are responsible for this mess are due to former conservative governments, and especially Maggie Thatcher and the the great conservative British Empire and before that ...


    What nonsense! LOL!

    Here's the real skinny!

    Mark Steyn: Lessons for us from London in flames | london, want, book - Opinion - The Orange County Register

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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Excellent piece. I haven't finished reading but I have to post this quote:

    One-tenth of the adult population has done not a day's work since Tony Blair took office on May 1, 1997.
    Finished it now. Gotta quote this.

    This is the logical dead end of the Nanny State. When William Beveridge laid out his blueprint for the British welfare regime in 1942, his goal was the "abolition of want" to be accomplished by "co-operation between the State and the individual." In attempting to insulate the citizenry from life's vicissitudes, Sir William succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. As I write in my book: "Want has been all but abolished. Today, fewer and fewer Britons want to work, want to marry, want to raise children, want to lead a life of any purpose or dignity." The United Kingdom has the highest drug use in Europe, the highest incidence of sexually transmitted disease, the highest number of single mothers, the highest abortion rate. Marriage is all but defunct, except for William and Kate, fellow toffs, upscale gays and Muslims
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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    otoh, sales of baseball bats (as Britian's citizenry is banned from defending itself with any kind of actual 'weapon' - you could hurt the rioter or rapist, doncha know) seems to have skyrocketed.
    baseball bats? Are you sure it wasn't cricket bats???
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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Yeah, PeteEU is absolutely correct of course. People don't just riot for the heck of it one sunny Sunday afternoon on their way from bunch to a crouquet match or whatever... They riot when they are beyond frustrated by the abuse they've been getting from the system. The UK is the only country in the world with a wider rich/poor gap and lower intergenerational income mobility that the US has. That is why people are so frustrated, and I don't think anybody would seriously deny that those problems are the product of conservative politics. If you push people too far, you take too much advantage of them, you concentrate all the country's GDP in the hands of too few people, etc, eventually the people snap. That isn't news. Everybody has known that forever. Greenspan warned the GOP not to push any further or they would risk creating a full blown revolution back early in the Bush years. The GOP pushed further anyways. We didn't see a revolution obviously, but at some point that line does get crossed. The UK isn't there yet either, but the riot is a clear indication that they are getting close. Ultimately the people won't tolerate feudalism regardless of whether it is rationalized in religious language like it was in the middle ages or economic theories that are clearly designed just to benefit the rich like "trickle down" and whatnot.
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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Yeah, PeteEU is absolutely correct of course. People don't just riot for the heck of it one sunny Sunday afternoon on their way from bunch to a crouquet match or whatever... They riot when they are beyond frustrated by the abuse they've been getting from the system. The UK is the only country in the world with a wider rich/poor gap and lower intergenerational income mobility that the US has. That is why people are so frustrated, and I don't think anybody would seriously deny that those problems are the product of conservative politics. If you push people too far, you take too much advantage of them, you concentrate all the country's GDP in the hands of too few people, etc, eventually the people snap. That isn't news. Everybody has known that forever. Greenspan warned the GOP not to push any further or they would risk creating a full blown revolution back early in the Bush years. The GOP pushed further anyways. We didn't see a revolution obviously, but at some point that line does get crossed. The UK isn't there yet either, but the riot is a clear indication that they are getting close. Ultimately the people won't tolerate feudalism regardless of whether it is rationalized in religious language like it was in the middle ages or economic theories that are clearly designed just to benefit the rich like "trickle down" and whatnot.
    one of the 'tards arrested by the constables apparently is the daughter of a multi millionaire. the london riots are a symptom of what happens when honest people are disarmed. If that crap happened where I live, the riot would have lasted until the first 'tard tried chucking a molotov cocktail and caught a 5.56 in the snout



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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    one of the 'tards arrested by the constables apparently is the daughter of a multi millionaire. the london riots are a symptom of what happens when honest people are disarmed. If that crap happened where I live, the riot would have lasted until the first 'tard tried chucking a molotov cocktail and caught a 5.56 in the snout
    Tough guy talk coming from gun owners always strikes me as silly. You can't argue that you need to carry around a gun to feel safe in the same streets that my grandmother walks unarmed and at the same time pretend like you're some kind of tough guy...

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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Tough guy talk coming from gun owners always strikes me as silly. You can't argue that you need to carry around a gun to feel safe in the same streets that my grandmother walks unarmed and at the same time pretend like you're some kind of tough guy...
    studies have demonstrated that those who whine about guns tend to be cowards and guns remind them of their inadequacies.



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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    studies have demonstrated that those who whine about guns tend to be cowards and guns remind them of their inadequacies.
    lol. Source please...

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    Re: What The UK Riots Mean For Bookstores

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Excellent piece. I haven't finished reading but I have to post this quote:



    Finished it now. Gotta quote this.

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    It's a shame that the right wing has the correct solutions, in my view, yet they're represented by such intellectually bankrupt people in the media. So the British welfare state is responsible for the UK having all these social problems at a level that makes the rest of the EU blush, even though most of them are more left-wing and are bigger welfare states than the UK itself?

    I used to think leftists were either stupid or dishonest. I'm afraid the same applies to prominent RW commentators like Mr. Steyn.

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