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    Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islamist

    This past April, right-wing war hawk John Bolton suggested during an interview on Fox News that the United States should cut Social Security and Medicare to finance the defense budget.

    During debate over the debt deal today on the Senate floor, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) appeared to endorse this call. Lieberman explained that he is working with Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) on a Social Security spending reduction plan and that “we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense…to protect us…with Islamist extremists”:

    LIEBERMAN: I want to indicate today to my colleagues that Senator Coburn and I are working again on a bipartisan proposal to secure Social Security over the long term, we hope to have that done in time. To also forward to the special committee for their consideration. So, bottom line, we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense we need to protect us in a dangerous world while we’re at war with Islamist extremists who attacked us on 9/11 and will be for a long time to come.

    Read more and video @:Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islamist Extremists’ | ThinkProgress

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Swing and a miss by Lieberman, yet another person who doesn't get that while one side of this equation needs cuts so too does the other. Over the next 10 years both defense spending and entitlement spending needs to decrease by at least 1/3rd

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    To hear him these days, it's unbelievable that he was ever a Democrat, much less Al Gore's running mate.


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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    IMO, at a time of growing fiscal challenge, all programs/services need to be open to review/reform. The Pentagon, like any other government department, must also be asked to find ways to do more with less. In other words, it also needs to be asked to become more productive so to speak. Addressing its procurement processes could represent a good source of savings. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program illustrates the deep flaws in the Pentagon's procurement processes. The program has seen costs escalate and timelines for completion pushed farther into the future. According to GAO findings, the average cost per jet has risen from $69 million in 2001 when the contract was secured to $156 million. Concerns about the F-35's performance remain to be resolved.

    Beyond the Pentagon, foreign policy has to become more focused on national interests. Military intervention should be focused on situations where critical U.S. interests/allies are under credible imminent threat and no practical alternatives to military force exist. Most recently, Libya would not have met those criteria.

    In sum, the mandatory spending/entitlement programs need to be reviewed and reformed. At the same time, discretionary spending, including Defense spending, also has be be reviewed with an emphasis on generating savings.

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Some people really want ot relive the early 1900's around here.
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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    To hear him these days, it's unbelievable that he was ever a Democrat, much less Al Gore's running mate.
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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This past April, right-wing war hawk John Bolton suggested during an interview on Fox News that the United States should cut Social Security and Medicare to finance the defense budget.

    During debate over the debt deal today on the Senate floor, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) appeared to endorse this call. Lieberman explained that he is working with Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) on a Social Security spending reduction plan and that “we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense…to protect us…with Islamist extremists”:

    LIEBERMAN: I want to indicate today to my colleagues that Senator Coburn and I are working again on a bipartisan proposal to secure Social Security over the long term, we hope to have that done in time. To also forward to the special committee for their consideration. So, bottom line, we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense we need to protect us in a dangerous world while we’re at war with Islamist extremists who attacked us on 9/11 and will be for a long time to come.

    Read more and video @:Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islamist Extremists’ | ThinkProgress

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    One idea would be to let John Bolton's words speak for themselves rather than prefacing his name with "right-wing war hawk". These persistent labellings cloud the discussion and discourage debate.

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    That Lieberman has the balls to call himself an American still is mind-boggling.... bet when he does finally leave the US Congress, the first thing he will do is move to Israel and maybe even renounce his American citizenship.
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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    That Lieberman has the balls to call himself an American still is mind-boggling.... bet when he does finally leave the US Congress, the first thing he will do is move to Israel and maybe even renounce his American citizenship.
    well said - I have suspected for a while that his national loyalties are at best torn and divided.
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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    IMO, at a time of growing fiscal challenge, all programs/services need to be open to review/reform. The Pentagon, like any other government department, must also be asked to find ways to do more with less. In other words, it also needs to be asked to become more productive so to speak. Addressing its procurement processes could represent a good source of savings. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program illustrates the deep flaws in the Pentagon's procurement processes. The program has seen costs escalate and timelines for completion pushed farther into the future. According to GAO findings, the average cost per jet has risen from $69 million in 2001 when the contract was secured to $156 million. Concerns about the F-35's performance remain to be resolved.

    Beyond the Pentagon, foreign policy has to become more focused on national interests. Military intervention should be focused on situations where critical U.S. interests/allies are under credible imminent threat and no practical alternatives to military force exist. Most recently, Libya would not have met those criteria.

    In sum, the mandatory spending/entitlement programs need to be reviewed and reformed. At the same time, discretionary spending, including Defense spending, also has be be reviewed with an emphasis on generating savings.
    Why is it so easy for people to point out flaws in defense, yet be speechless when it comes to entitlements? Where is the examples of entitlement waste? 40% of the budget on entitlements, and not one obvious one? How about a list ten miles long, showing all the fraud resulting from stupidly written legislation. I can tell you about a ton of defense problems, mainly due to initial requirement initial setup that were unachieveable to begin with.
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