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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    To hear him these days, it's unbelievable that he was ever a Democrat, much less Al Gore's running mate.
    How so? he stated he was working to provide for the long term security of the Social Security program. He is a democrat that believes in fighting terrorism...that makes him...Obama.

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    That Lieberman has the balls to call himself an American still is mind-boggling.... bet when he does finally leave the US Congress, the first thing he will do is move to Israel and maybe even renounce his American citizenship.
    Along with Obama?

    Good lord...what a bunch of ideologues. Lieberman is saying the same thing Obama is DOING.

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    from American



    Okay - I'll bite. Where are they?

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    Just how much in actual dollars has Social Security contributed to the debt or deficit of the United States of America?
    Here's a link, to help you begin the process of overcoming denial.



    I realize that in your world, SS and Medicare are not discretionary...and therefore can never have any waste by definition. Discretionary expenditures, like defense, can have waste because we have borrow to pay for what we want beyond what's leftover in the budget after all the "have to's" are paid. Where I come from, everything except interest on the debt is discretionary. However, only one item in that pie chart is required by the Constitution...and that's defense.
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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    That Lieberman has the balls to call himself an American still is mind-boggling.... bet when he does finally leave the US Congress, the first thing he will do is move to Israel and maybe even renounce his American citizenship.
    well, he was born a jew, his nationality is tied to his ethnic religion, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Here's a link, to help you begin the process of overcoming denial.



    I realize that in your world, SS and Medicare are not discretionary...and therefore can never have any waste by definition. Discretionary expenditures, like defense, can have waste because we have borrow to pay for what we want beyond what's leftover in the budget after all the "have to's" are paid. Where I come from, everything except interest on the debt is discretionary. However, only one item in that pie chart is required by the Constitution...and that's defense.
    What you fail to understand

    Social Security is funded through a specific tax, a tax to be used specifically for Social Security. The funds in excess of what is paid out, are lent to the federal government to help fund the military.

    Social Security is not in a deficiet situation, and has a surplus of funds. It is not the cause of the US budget deficit
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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    What you fail to understand

    Social Security is funded through a specific tax, a tax to be used specifically for Social Security. The funds in excess of what is paid out, are lent to the federal government to help fund the military.

    Social Security is not in a deficiet situation, and has a surplus of funds. It is not the cause of the US budget deficit
    a surplus backed by IOU's, because politicians took money out of the s.s. "money pile".

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    I guess I need to move north before they cut SS to avoid the heat I get here where it's still over 100, and find a bridge to live under where there is a river with fish so I can eat.

    I have paid into SS since I was 12 which is a very long time.

    I want to see some logic applied to the problems with current to programs that waste money like Medicare not negotiating for drug costs where we are ripped off every day.

    I am on 12 drugs that keep me alive and they cost would be well over $100 a month were it not for a program I am on. One is almost $50 alone, when the cost should be near $10.

    This is only one program out of 100 where we are paying too much but they is never addressed, because of special interests and pay offs in the campaign donations.

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    a surplus backed by IOU's, because politicians took money out of the s.s. "money pile".
    Do you have a mortgage

    If so that is the equivalent of an IOU, just as the government bonds that many people hold. The bonds held by the Social Security trust fund are the same as the IOU (or mortgage) people have with banks
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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Do you have a mortgage

    If so that is the equivalent of an IOU, just as the government bonds that many people hold. The bonds held by the Social Security trust fund are the same as the IOU (or mortgage) people have with banks
    Can the government pay it off? WILL they pay it off? The numbers say no.

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    Re: Joe Lieberman Says U.S. Should Cut Social Security To Pay For Fighting ‘The Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Can the government pay it off? WILL they pay it off? The numbers say no.
    Sure they can

    With higher income taxes and cuts to other programs. The debt the US government owes to SS is only $2.6 trillion
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