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    Re: FAA Shutdown Means Workers Must Pay To Work

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You seem unable to appreciate that a bill to fund the FAA was ****canned by the Dems, despite that such a bill would have put thousands of workers back on the job and billions into the treasury.
    at the cost of rescinding the existing rights of the airline employees to have union representation


    Given their disinclination to vote on a funding bill, one can only conclude that the dems interests necessarily had to be about bowing to their union benefactors and paymasters.

    See how much fun that is...
    they did value the rights of the employees to be represented by unions, and protected those rights by voting to prohibit the elimination of such representation
    and we now find ourselves without an effective FAA because the republicans refused to address the clean bill which would fund FAA operations
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    Re: FAA Shutdown Means Workers Must Pay To Work

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    at the cost of rescinding the existing rights of the airline employees to have union representation



    they did value the rights of the employees to be represented by unions, and protected those rights by voting to prohibit the elimination of such representation
    and we now find ourselves without an effective FAA because the republicans refused to address the clean bill which would fund FAA operations
    No, they value the right of the union bosses to extract money from members and funnel it into the dem's campaign coffers.

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    Re: FAA Shutdown Means Workers Must Pay To Work

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it can't be about the subsidies
    there was an attempt to pass a clean bill, to allow the FAA to receive its funding. that 'clean' bill eliminated any providions for elimination of union representation. it also contained no provision for the elimination of transit subsidies
    Senate plan to end FAA shutdown falls apart : Kitsap Sun

    the cost of the subsidy program is $200 million annually. that is the amount the FCC loses weekly when it is prevented from receiving ticket taxes
    it makes no fiscal sense to give up $200 million a week to "save" $200 million per year


    the dems are refusing to take union rights away from employees who now have them
    as was pointed out above, there was an attempt to pass a clean bill to fund the FAA but that attempt was scuttled by the republicans
    appears the republicans are willing to give up $200 million in weekly revenues to "save" $200 million per year in transit subsidies
    but it gets worse. we are now expecting essential employees to cover their own work costs. the federal employee should NEVER be expected to subsidize the federal government
    and the 'family friendly' republicans are willing to allow the 4,000 laid off wage employees to suffer while this goes unresolved; likewise the 70,000 employees laid off by the contractors who have received "stop work" orders
    few will understand how expensive a stop work order is for the government to issue. when the work resumes, the government will have to pay for all the costs incurred during the stoppage, plus the additional monies required to re-start the project. that overhead, rental/lease expense, shrinkage of materials ... every cost the contractor would normally incur, except the direct labor wages ... will be passed on to the taxpayer as added expense of the job. like the additional ticket prices delta is now pocketing because the FAA is unable to collect them, this will be gravy to the construction companies

    this is another in a long series of the republicans acting in a way opposing the wage earners' interests
    Why are we giving subsidies to an airline? A better question: why are you ok with it?

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    Re: FAA Shutdown Means Workers Must Pay To Work

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why are we giving subsidies to an airline? A better question: why are you ok with it?
    Because some more remote communities would never have airline service without these subsidies.
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    Re: FAA Shutdown Means Workers Must Pay To Work

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why are we giving subsidies to an airline? A better question: why are you ok with it?
    please point out where i advocated subsidies for airlines

    and please do recognize that airlines, like delta, are increasing their fares by an amount equal to the ticket taxes not being collected by the FCC
    by refusing to fund the FCC, an indirect subsidy is thereby provided to the airlines
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    Re: FAA Shutdown Means Workers Must Pay To Work

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because some more remote communities would never have airline service without these subsidies.
    So what?..............

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    Re: FAA Shutdown Means Workers Must Pay To Work

    associated press, thursday: Govt Pays For Empty Flights To Rural Airports

    On some days, the pilots with Great Lakes Airlines fire up a twin-engine Beechcraft 1900 at the Ely, Nev., airport and depart for Las Vegas without a single passenger on board. And the federal government pays them to do it.

    Federal statistics reviewed by The Associated Press show that in 2010, just 227 passengers flew out of Ely while the airline got $1.8 million in subsidies. The travelers paid $70 to $90 for a one-way ticket. The cost to taxpayers for each ticket: $4,107.

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