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    Free cell phones are now a civil right

    Pennsylvanians on public assistance now have a new 'civil right' -- free cell phones. Meanwhile, the rest of us get to pay higher cell bills as a result.
    Recently, a federal government program called the Universal Service Fund came to the Keystone State and some residents are thrilled because it means they can enjoy 250 minutes a month and a handset for free, just because they don't have the money to pay for it. Through Assurance Wireless and SafeLink from Tracfone Wireless these folks get to reach out and touch someone while the cost of their service is paid for by everyone else. You see, the telecommunications companies are funding the Universal Service Fund to the tune of $4 billion a year because the feds said they have to and in order to recoup their money, the companies turn around and hike their fees to paying customers. But those of use paying for the free service for the poor, should be happy about this infuriating situation, says Gary Carter, manager of national partnerships for Assurance, because "the program is about peace of mind." Free cell service means "one less bill that someone has to pay, so they can pay their rent or for day care...it is a right to have peace of mind," Cater explained.


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    Re: Free cell phones are now a civil right

    The story isn't complete until we find out which politicians are profiting off this deal.

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    Re: Free cell phones are now a civil right

    In some cases, cell phone service is actually cheaper than a landline. So depending on costs in Pennsylvania, the State may actually be saving taxpayer money by providing cell phones instead of a landline.

    It's a great headline to get people's dander up, but in reality it may be a good thing. Unless you're suddenly against the government saving money, which I doubt.


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    Re: Free cell phones are now a civil right

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    In some cases, cell phone service is actually cheaper than a landline. So depending on costs in Pennsylvania, the State may actually be saving taxpayer money by providing cell phones instead of a landline.

    It's a great headline to get people's dander up, but in reality it may be a good thing. Unless you're suddenly against the government saving money, which I doubt.

    This sounds exactly like government logic and what has us in the financial situation we are in. Spend money to save money.

    We give out free stuff but if we give away cheaper free stuff we save money!!!

    How about we stop giving away "free stuff" all together. We may not "save" money but at least we would be expense neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    This sounds exactly like government logic and what has us in the financial situation we are in. Spend money to save money.

    We give out free stuff but if we give away cheaper free stuff we save money!!!

    How about we stop giving away "free stuff" all together. We may not "save" money but at least we would be expense neutral.
    We want people to get jobs, right? (Assuming there were any). How are potential employers going to call them to give them a job?

    Just to play devil's advocate for a minute...


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    Re: Free cell phones are now a civil right

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    We want people to get jobs, right? (Assuming there were any). How are potential employers going to call them to give them a job?

    Just to play devil's advocate for a minute...
    Do what people did for years. Give them the number of a good friend.

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    Re: Free cell phones are now a civil right

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Do what people did for years. Give them the number of a good friend.
    Assuming your friend has a phone.

    I'm reminded of the blind man in O Brother Where Art Thou?

    Delmar:"You work for the railroad, old man?"

    Blind man: "I work for no man."

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    "I have no name."

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    Re: Free cell phones are now a civil right

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    We want people to get jobs, right? (Assuming there were any). How are potential employers going to call them to give them a job?

    Just to play devil's advocate for a minute...
    We all know someone that has a phone, not having one yourself will not keep you from getting a job. I myself have not always had a phone yet it never once stopped me from gaining employment.

    You can either let potential employers know the number is a message phone for you and a friend family member can rely the message. If you do not happen to know anyone willing to take a message for you (which is unlikely but happens) we still have the good old envelope & stamp. Trust me if an employer really wants to hire you they will go to extra lengths to do so.

    How did people become employed 50 years ago when phones were not nearly as widespread? Im just saying its perfectly possible to still do so, this does not necessarily mean everyone will. It has become more of a convenience to use a phone to hire persons but by no means is it a necessity.

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    Re: Free cell phones are now a civil right

    I think this article is stretching the truth by calling it a "right". If it's part of them moving closer to getting a job and off of long-term assistance, then it saves money, not the other way around.

    Nice propaganda piece though, as usual.

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    Re: Free cell phones are now a civil right

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Assuming your friend has a phone.
    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the vast majority have a friend with a phone. What if they have no car to get to the interview? No computer to put in an online application? (many places only take online apps now)
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