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Kerry Spokesman stripped of Silver Star.

PeteEU said:
At least he was in Vietnam..... unlike his opponent... who had daddy pull strings so he avoid the war...
and are you still stuck in this bull**** still?
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All he had to do was say that. Instead, he stood by and permitted his underlings to sign him up for stolen valor, a most egregious offense against true combat vets and the pride of America.
 
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Am no fan of Kerry (major understatement there) but don't really see where the actions of Wade Sanders much reflect on Kerry's character.






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pbrauer said:
Wasn't Lt. Calley convicted of murder in My Lai?
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Does William Calley represent every U.S. serviceman that served in Vietnam?

And, yes, he was convicted of the crime he committed. Although there were extenuating circumstances involved and My Lai should have been carpet bombed vice probed with an infantry unit, nor should 1st Platoon, C 1/20 INF have even been in the field at the time, because they were physically and emotionally spent and exhibited a failure on the part of Calley's chain of command, there's no excuse for Calley's actions.

However, that it one unfortunate incident during the war and in no way should it be used to define the service of every soldier that served in Vietnam.
 
Cole said:
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Am no fan of Kerry (major understatement there) but don't really see where the actions of Wade Sanders much reflect on Kerry's character.






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Because they were possibly in cahoots.
 
rocket88 said:
Yes, going to war and serving your country is totally meaningless if you don't deserve an award.

He went. It's not meaningless.
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Seriosuly dood...get your computer checked...you too must be having a problem seeing the first part of that sentence..."If the report that rated Kerry to receive an award for valor is false..."
 
Cole said:
Am no fan of Kerry (major understatement there) but don't really see where the actions of Wade Sanders much reflect on Kerry's character.
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Perhaps we wear glasses with the wrong kind of lenses. Or maybe we're not trying hard enough, believing hard enough, or w/e.
 
All Kerry had to do was what he promised to do. Release his records.
 
ecofarm said:
Kerry wrote himself three purples for scratches to get out as fast as possible, abandoning and then bad mouthing his buddies. He shot a fleeing VC in the back for his silver, no V; whoopie.
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Sorry, not true. The "shot in the back" comes from anti-Kerry people. Not a single person who was there has said such a thing.

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apdst said:
This is heavy! It also goes a long way to vendicate the Swift Boat vets that called Kerry out for being a fake hero.
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Sounds like this guy is a pervert at least, but doesn't seem like that has anything to do with the Vet truthers saying one thing 40 years ago, but saying the opposite 7 years ago. They are no more believable regardless of what this guy did.
 
apdst said:
That piece-a-**** didn't serve his country. He served his own political agenda. A person that serves his/her country doesn't tell bald-face lies about his/her comrades in arms; like Kerry did.

John Kerry is a ****ing disgrace to everyone whose worn the uniform since 1775.
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He served his own political agenda by going to Vietnam??

Seems that the right really respects the troops...at least the ones who aren't Democrats. Which is your real issue isn't it? Kerry is a Democrat. If he were a Republican you'd be asking for proof.

Partisan hackery at it's most pathetic.
 
VanceMack said:
Seriosuly dood...get your computer checked...you too must be having a problem seeing the first part of that sentence..."If the report that rated Kerry to receive an award for valor is false..."
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Kerry going to 'Nam is not meaningless regardless of the veracity of this report. The veracity of the report only calls into question an award he received, not his entire record.
 
rocket88 said:
Kerry going to 'Nam is not meaningless regardless of the veracity of this report. The veracity of the report only calls into question an award he received, not his entire record.
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Kerry lying to get purple hearts and other assorted medals makes him a scumbag. Period. If you have been in the military you may understand how much it pisses military folk off.

You might also consider mr Kerry's Vietnam history...a hardcore gung-ho committed individual right up until Nixon won the presidency at which point he strained muscles to get out of the suddenly unpopular war.

Everyone serves for their own reason. Not everyone lies to earn medals others actually earned.
 
apdst said:
This is heavy! It also goes a long way to vendicate the Swift Boat vets that called Kerry out for being a fake hero.
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It sounds like he lost his medal because he violated child porn rules, not because he was deemed a liar in terms of his service.... WTF. Why are you so hellbent on undermining the sacrifice of soldiers all the time on this board all the time?
 
lpast said:
bah there were hundreds of thousands in nam that were the real deal...not a self movie making pos...his purple hearts were BULL****...you get 3 you get out of the combat zone....his last one he got a scratch on his finger... hes a piece of trash....just like al gore running around saying he was a nam vet he was a half ass reporter never saw a second combat....
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I don't know why you're calling him a piece of trash. He served this country and risked his life. If you don't like how he got his purple hearts, that's one thing... calling him trash for getting them because that's how the military service works in this country is another. The point is, he was a solider. A solider shouldn't automatically become trash because you don't like his politics.
 
SheWolf said:
I don't know why you're calling him a piece of trash. He served this country and risked his life. If you don't like how he got his purple hearts, that's one thing... calling him trash for getting them because that's how the military service works in this country is another. The point is, he was a solider. A solider shouldn't automatically become trash because you don't like his politics.
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Is there some new evidence or source beyond this?

"Now the Navy Times reports that Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus has revoked Sanders' Silver Star. The highly unusual decision appears unrelated to Sanders' felony conviction. A Navy spokesman cited "subsequently determined facts and evidence surrounding both the incident for which the award was made and the processing of the award itself."
 
VanceMack said:
Is there some new evidence or source beyond this?

"Now the Navy Times reports that Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus has revoked Sanders' Silver Star. The highly unusual decision appears unrelated to Sanders' felony conviction. A Navy spokesman cited "subsequently determined facts and evidence surrounding both the incident for which the award was made and the processing of the award itself."
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I am pretty sure the other poster was talking about Kerry, because he was talking about purple hearts specifically... Military policy for awarding purple hearts for a wound you deem as being minor and not worthy, isn't the solider's fault.
 
SheWolf said:
I am pretty sure the other poster was talking about Kerry, because he was talking about purple hearts specifically... Military policy for awarding purple hearts for a wound you deem as being minor and not worthy, isn't the solider's fault.
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Unless you repeatedly request them yourself for a few minor scratches. Nicks in the ass from an unknown source that doesnt require a bandage, as compared to a soldier actually wounded in combat yet awarded the same medal...it just doesnt sit well...
 
I have no respect for Kerry as a Politician, today or in 04 but i do respect that he was there in service to us.

The Capt. May have been awarded a medal for something that did not happen or what ever. But the fact that he did serve is reason for respect for that much.
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As to the charges he is serving time for. He is now a despicable low life.

If Kerry is found to have received a Medal for things he didn't do. so be it.

I reaspect out troops. I have two younger Bothers that served in this era one is Gay and thay came home alive and I respect that, even though I am not in favor of the Gay agenda.
 
VanceMack said:
Unless you repeatedly request them yourself for a few minor scratches. Nicks in the ass from an unknown source that doesnt require a bandage, as compared to a soldier actually wounded in combat yet awarded the same medal...it just doesnt sit well...
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I do see that there is difference, but that's how the military works...
 
Kerry was a drip. He and his "Jinjis Khan'...................
Ha, ha..................what a drip.
 
Kerry does deserve thanks for serving his country. I would never deny him that. He deserves scorn though for throwing his fellow soldiers under the bus and his many lies since his service days.
 
PeteEU said:
At least he was in Vietnam..... unlike his opponent... who had daddy pull strings so he avoid the war...

and are you still stuck in this bull**** still?
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Neither one will be on the ballot in 2012, so why does this matter?
 
1Perry said:
Kerry does deserve thanks for serving his country. I would never deny him that. He deserves scorn though for throwing his fellow soldiers under the bus and his many lies since his service days.
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For that, he's a dirtbag, in my book.
 
Yeah, not every soldier gets thanks forever. The military would be better without him. He didn't join for us, he proved that.
 
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