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    New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Granted this is about as telling as a 10 point advantage in the 3rd quarter of a basketball game, but I'm sure it has the Obama camp rattled.

    Obama is running for the center already, aiming for the independents who played such a crucial role in his victorious coalition in 2008. They were the first to start abandoning the good ship Obama back in 2009 when all the ex-state senator could do was talk about healthcare, when jobs and the economy were the peoples' priority.

    Now, comes a new ABC News/Washington Post poll with a whole harvest of revelations, among them, strong indications that Obama's liberal base is starting to crumble.
    New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles - latimes.com

    So, as Obama moves to the center to try to regain some of those votes, he's losing a lot of people on the left who feel they elected a liberal to be a liberal.

    Some of the high points:
    • Strong support among liberal Democrats for Obama's jobs record has plummeted 22 points from 53% down below a third.
    • Vermont's Sen. Bernie Sanders: "I think it would be a good idea if President Obama faced some primary opposition."
    • Obama enjoyed heavy support in Western and Midwestern states in 2008, but those margins have disappeared. Strong support for Obama remains only in the Northeast.

    Economy
    • 90% rate the economy negatively (bad news if it's "all about the economy, stupid")
    • Obama's overall job approval on the economy has slid below 40% for the first time, with 57% disapproving.

    Black Voters
    • African Americans who believe the president's measures helped the economy have plunged from 77% to barely half
    • Despite deteriorating confidence, polls suggest most would still vote for Obama.

    Jewish Voters
    • Gallup: Obama's Jewish support has been dropping the longer he's in office. That makes Jewish voters just like the rest of the average voting population, which ain't so enthused with Obama.
    • A controversial McLaughlin poll of Jewish voters suggests that of those who voted for Obama in 2008, 64 percent said they still have a favorable opinion of the president overall, but only 43 percent said they would vote for him again.

    White Voters
    • A seven-point Democratic advantage among whites under age 30 three years ago has turned into an 11-point GOP advantage today.
    • A 15-point Democratic advantage among whites earning less than $30,000 annually has swung to a slim four-point Republican edge today.
    • Overall, his support among white voters has evaporated. In 2008, Obama enjoyed an advantage among whites who were (in order of strength): Low Income (+15), Northeastern (+12), Catholic (+8), under 30 (+7), Midwestern (+3), Western (+2), and college grads (+1). Obama now trails in every category except by the slimmest margin among those that live in the Northeast (+1).

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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Well when abandon your base and pander to giant corporations and Wall Street, those of us on the Left will abandon you. No big surprise, really.

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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    I understand that the hardcore left is losing interest in Obama due to his willingness to compromise with the right, however, at the end of the day, those people, much like the Tea Party people who are pissed off at the GOP for working with Obama, will have no other option than to vote for him or vote for a republican. (We know that ain't never gonna happen.)

    The same could be said for the Teabaggers. They can rant and rave and piss and moan all they want but at the end of the day, they will still vote republican, just like the whacko left will still vote democrat.

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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I understand that the hardcore left is losing interest in Obama due to his willingness to compromise with the right, however, at the end of the day, those people, much like the Tea Party people who are pissed off at the GOP for working with Obama, will have no other option than to vote for him or vote for a republican. (We know that ain't never gonna happen.)

    The same could be said for the Teabaggers. They can rant and rave and piss and moan all they want but at the end of the day, they will still vote republican, just like the whacko left will still vote democrat.
    i'm not sure i will vote.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Also interesting to note:
    • Party identification among Democrats has fallen from a very high 38% in '08 to 34%
    • Party identification among Repubicans remains very low at 28%, remaining flat since support dropped in '06.
    • Independent party identification has surged since '04, climbing to 34% from 27% - Pew research suggests this is the highest level of independent party identification since party ID was first measured in 1930.


    Should underscore why Republicans are trying to take a strong stance on fiscal conservatism - they realize they're just being used right now until they can prove themselves worthy of support again.

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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Also interesting to note:
    • Party identification among Democrats has fallen from a very high 38% in '08 to 34%
    • Party identification among Repubicans remains very low at 28%, remaining flat since support dropped in '06.
    • Independent party identification has surged since '04, climbing to 34% from 27% - Pew research suggests this is the highest level of independent party identification since party ID was first measured in 1930.


    Should underscore why Republicans are trying to take a strong stance on fiscal conservatism - they realize they're just being used right now until they can prove themselves worthy of support again.
    Republicans are like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. Just when they have you convinced they won't pull the ball out from under you again, Arrrgggghhhh!

    "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it." No truer words were ever spoken. I know that, here in Wisconsin, we learned our lesson. But how long will we remember it?

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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I understand that the hardcore left is losing interest in Obama due to his willingness to compromise with the right, however, at the end of the day, those people, much like the Tea Party people who are pissed off at the GOP for working with Obama, will have no other option than to vote for him or vote for a republican. (We know that ain't never gonna happen.)
    I've posted the links elsewhere and will again if need be. One of the reasons McCain lost is because of his very weak support from the Tea Party. They may not vote for Obama but their support certainly is not a given.

    The same could be said for the Teabaggers. They can rant and rave and piss and moan all they want but at the end of the day, they will still vote republican, just like the whacko left will still vote democrat.
    I voted for neither Obama or McCain. I couldn't stomach either.

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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Eh.....only confirms that the right-wings attempts to paint Obama as a "liberal" or a "socialist" are nothing but a bunch of lies. Those of us on the left, knew coming into this that Obama was a moderate at best. I'm sure a few people were fooled by the right-wing, but those of us in the know voted with that understanding. Obama is still a hell of a lot better than anything that the GOP has to offer, so I suspect that despite what this poll suggests, the left will support Obama come election time.
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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Eh.....only confirms that the right-wings attempts to paint Obama as a "liberal" or a "socialist" are nothing but a bunch of lies.
    He is a liberal... are you going to argue he's a conservative or a libertarian?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Those of us on the left, knew coming into this that Obama was a moderate at best. I'm sure a few people were fooled by the right-wing, but those of us in the know voted with that understanding. Obama is still a hell of a lot better than anything that the GOP has to offer, so I suspect that despite what this poll suggests, the left will support Obama come election time.
    I don't think this fools anyone dd.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Eh.....only confirms that the right-wings attempts to paint Obama as a "liberal" or a "socialist" are nothing but a bunch of lies. Those of us on the left, knew coming into this that Obama was a moderate at best. I'm sure a few people were fooled by the right-wing, but those of us in the know voted with that understanding. Obama is still a hell of a lot better than anything that the GOP has to offer, so I suspect that despite what this poll suggests, the left will support Obama come election time.
    There's the question of who you'd vote for given just two choices, and the question of whether you bother to vote at all. Disgruntled voter don't flock to the polls unless it's because theyREALLY hate the alternative.

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