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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Those sales taxes--not income taxes--were paid with tax money, which created zero new revenue. It amounts to nothing more than taking money from one government account and putting it into another, which doesn't accomplish a damn thing.

    Imagine this: you have $10,000. You deposit it into one account. Then, you take out $5,000 and use it to open a new account at another bank. What's the end result? You still only have $10,000.
    you are confusing apples with cinderblocks and then trying to convince us that the fault is in the recipe that we broke our teeth on that rock hard grey pie filling.

    A person who works - be it for a private company or a government department - has exchanged their labor for money. That is to be respected and valued. They came by their money honestly and gave honest value in return for it.
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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

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    you are confusing apples with cinderblocks and then trying to convince us that the fault is in the recipe that we broke our teeth on that rock hard grey pie filling.

    A person who works - be it for a private company or a government department - has exchanged their labor for money. That is to be respected and valued. They came by their money honestly and gave honest value in return for it.
    I never said otherwise.

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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    State employees don't create new revenue, by paying taxes.
    And if that is right - so what?

    What exactly do you think state employees do with their paychecks? Do you not understand they their is a standard multiplier effect for money then spent in other businesses which go into other employees pockets when then in turn spend their paychecks and the whole thing multiplies? You do understand that don't you?
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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

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    And if that is right - so what?

    What exactly do you think state employees do with their paychecks? Do you not understand they their is a standard multiplier effect for money then spent in other businesses which go into other employees pockets when then in turn spend their paychecks and the whole thing multiplies? You do understand that don't you?
    I think that since you feed from the trough, as well, you can't understand/won't admit that recycling government money doesn't create new tax revenue.

    Picture this: I own a business. I charge my employees 15% of their payroll to work for me. I turn around and use that 15% for my payroll account. Am I creating new revenue for my business?

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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    those who pay taxes with money given to them by the government don't rate as such with me
    Nobody "gives" them anything, they earned their salary.


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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I think that since you feed from the trough, as well, you can't understand/won't admit that recycling government money doesn't create new tax revenue.

    Picture this: I own a business. I charge my employees 15% of their payroll to work for me. I turn around and use that 15% for my payroll account. Am I creating new revenue for my business?
    Those two things do not prove your point about the issue at hand.

    You may want to read this example about how money multiplies - REGARDLESS of its source - and the good it can do in the economy

    How the U.S. Economy works, Pumphandle Economics

    Pumphandle Economics...

    It is a slow day in the small California town of Pumphandle and the streets are deserted. Times are tough; everybody is in debt and living on credit. A tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night. As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer. The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Co-op. The guy at the Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit. The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner. The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the traveler will not suspect anything. At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves.

    No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now out of debt and looks to the future with a lot more optimism.


    There is a valuable lesson in that little tale.
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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    confused I see

    I was talking about those who are on the dole
    You mean like Bank of America, Citigroup, General Electric, and other corporations? OK, I agree with you.
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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You mean like Bank of America, Citigroup, General Electric, and other corporations? OK, I agree with you.
    LOL Citigroup is trying to shove a thank(FK)you credit application on me several days a week for the six months. One thing though after the free interest rates it gets jacked up to Gods knows what perhaps 29.0 percent...LMAO, this outfit can go F it's self.

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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    No, but from someone who often refers to people as parasites I would not be surprised if you consider government employees to be on the dole.

    You have already established that you do consider most less equal than yourself.
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    Re: [Ohio]- SECRETARY OF STATE HUSTED CERTIFIES SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM ON SENATE B

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You mean like Bank of America, Citigroup, General Electric, and other corporations? OK, I agree with you.
    more populist nonsense. GE generates lots of wealth for lots of people and lots of taxes for the government-from the income taxes dividend owners pay to payroll taxes



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