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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Garton View Post
    Saying Freemasonry has nothing to do with Christianity is like saying the Moose Lodge or the Rotary Club has nothing to do with Christianity. Of course it doesn't -- it's not a religion! Most Freemasons are Christians, but one has little to do with the other -- at least if you dwell in reality and don't embrace the idiotic claims about the Freemasons being a front for the Illuminati, which is either made up of Satanists or reptilian aliens, depending on which nutjob you listen to. Christians and conservatives don't approve of violence? Who was behind the Inquisition and the Crusades and witch burnings? Freemasons? Shriners? The Friars Club? Who dragged America to war in the middle east on the basis of lies? Liberals? Independents? In order to believe that Christians and conservatives don't approve of violence, you have to be completely untethered from reality.
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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    feel free to move there. and the richest europeans spend a lot of time here. I don't know any millionaires who spend a lot of time in say Estonia, or Bulgaria or Norway.

    american commies and other far left loons hate America because its not communist or far left loony
    Are you kidding... Norway is beautiful, especially the fjords and you can take a lot of nice cruises through them.

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Are there any women in your lodge? I always heard women can't join, but the pre regs didn't mention you had to be a man...
    No, women can't be Masons, nor can Communists.

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Are you kidding... Norway is beautiful, especially the fjords and you can take a lot of nice cruises through them.
    a great place to visit..............



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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a great place to visit..............
    They have a higher standard of living than the U.S. So who is better?

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    My grandpa was a Freemason , and I don't believe it's a religion itself. He could be both a Freemason and a fundamental Christian.
    The Freemasons are not a religion, but a fraternity. Mason's come in all different shapes, sizes and religions. The Mason's do not endorse any particular religion over another, (but do require initiates to state that they are not atheist.)

    Mason's typically do not talk about religion and politics in their lodges as that type of conversation typically leads to discord and hard feelings. "Harmony and strength are the support of all institutions, more especially of ours."

    If this goofball was a raised Master Mason, I can assure you he isn't one any longer. I am confident he would be denounced in the strongest of terms. Probably half the cops, prison guards, lawyers and judges that will deal with him from here on out, are Freemason's. He done went and blemished the wrong fraternity. Never piss off a Mason. He is sooooo screwed now.

    Many of the founding father's were Freemason's. Too many patriots to count are Freemason's.

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, women can't be Masons, nor can Communists.
    Not totally accurate. True, women cannot become Freemason's unless it is some clandestine branch of masonry not recognized by the Grand Lodge. And it's true that in America, being a commie won't score you any points with most mason's, but neither will it disqualify you from becomming a mason. They do not ask if you are communist or not in the investigative interview.

    Only two things will get you disqualified from entering the fraternity from the git-go. 1: Proclaiming atheism. 2: Having a felony on your record.

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    I'm curious -- is it stated anywhere in Freemasonry why atheists are prohibited?

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Garton View Post
    I'm curious -- is it stated anywhere in Freemasonry why atheists are prohibited?
    The general thinking is that if a man can declare without reservation there is no diety, or God, or Supreme Being, or <fill in your favorite god-noun here> then this man already knows everything there is to know. What can someone like this be taught? Such immediate signs of vanity and arrogances should not be ignored in selecting possible brothers. Masons go for quality over quanity.

    Not sure what the exact verbage is or where in the charter it is mentioned. Interesting question though.

    I know that during the initial interviews, the entering apprentice is asked if they believe in a supreme being and they just let it go at that. They are not asked "which" supreme being or what religion or denomination they believe in. It's nobody's business. I have seen Masons wearing various jewelry with crosses to pentagrams, catholic saints, Wiccan symbols, hierogliphics (sp?) among many other symbols. I can't say it reflected their spiritual beliefs or not because I never asked. None of my business. You can believe in the Flying Speghetti Monster, I suppose. As long as you believe in something. They never ask. It's none of their business. That is for the churches to hash out. That is between a man and his preferred diety.

    In lodge, they always open with the "blessing of diety." The "diety" is referred as The Great Architech of the Universe. It is a generic name to mean "whatever diety you personally believe in" so as to be neither conclusive or inconclusive to any particular belief.

    What political persuasion a man follows is never questioned as politics are never discussed and are considered taboo conversation within the lodge. Let politician's be politicians and preachers be preachers. That's their thing. Not ours.

    Masons are just a bunch of regular guys who meet every so often, have a good time, and go out and collectively do something good for society. Plus, we are obligated to conduct ourselves the best we know how. You have to be a Master Mason before you become a Shriner. Masons and Shriners give millions of dollars a day to help children of all walks of life. They may show up one Saturday morning to build a ramp for your wheelchair bound granny. It's all about doing good.

    Like any organization, it can be infiltrated by cowens and eavesdroppers I suppose. But it is fun reading all the rediculous conspiracy theories from the tin hat people. We do get a kick out of it.
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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    The general thinking is that if a man can declare without reservation there is no diety, or God, or Supreme Being, or <fill in your favorite god-noun here> then this man already knows everything there is to know. What can someone like this be taught? Such immediate signs of vanity and arrogances should not be ignored in selecting possible brothers. Masons go for quality over quanity.

    Not sure what the exact verbage is or where in the charter it is mentioned. Interesting question though.

    I know that during the initial interviews, the entering apprentice is asked if they believe in a supreme being and they just let it go at that. They are not asked "which" supreme being or what religion or denomination they believe in. It's nobody's business. I have seen Masons wearing various jewelry with crosses to pentagrams, catholic saints, Wiccan symbols, hierogliphics (sp?) among many other symbols. I can't say it reflected their spiritual beliefs or not because I never asked. None of my business. You can believe in the Flying Speghetti Monster, I suppose. As long as you believe in something. They never ask. It's none of their business. That is for the churches to hash out. That is between a man and his preferred diety.

    In lodge, they always open with the "blessing of diety." The "diety" is referred as The Great Architech of the Universe. It is a generic name to mean "whatever diety you personally believe in" so as to be neither conclusive or inconclusive to any particular belief.

    What political persuasion a man follows is never questioned as politics are never discussed and are considered taboo conversation within the lodge. Let politician's be politicians and preachers be preachers. That's their thing. Not ours.

    Masons are just a bunch of regular guys who meet every so often, have a good time, and go out and collectively do something good for society. Plus, we are obligated to conduct ourselves the best we know how. You have to be a Master Mason before you become a Shriner. Masons and Shriners give millions of dollars a day to help children of all walks of life. They may show up one Saturday morning to build a ramp for your wheelchair bound granny. It's all about doing good.

    Like any organization, it can be infiltrated by cowens and eavesdroppers I suppose. But it is fun reading all the rediculous conspiracy theories from the tin hat people. We do get a kick out of it.
    So the ultimate secret goal of masonry is to wear a funny hat while driving a small car in parades?
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