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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    I take issue with everyone who said Conservatives never use violence. Want to look at history? Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, the leaders Islamic Revolution in Iran, Pinochet,conservative Muslim jihadists, and that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head in the last century. Has the left used violence before? Yes there it is completely ignorant to deny that just as it is completely ignorant to say the right does not use violence and terror. However, one of the leaders of the Russian Revolution Leon Trotsky openly condemned the use of terror in this essay: Leon Trotsky: Terrorism (1911)
    violence tends to be part and parcel of authoritarian collectivist regimes. fascists, trotskyites, marxists, shining path, maoists, nazis, stalinists might have different names but the end results tend to be about the same



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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I thought it was more akin to the Boy Scouts in that one just needs to have a belief in God, but not necessarily be a Christian.
    Yeah...God...the Christian God.

    That's what the, "G", in the Masonic symbol represents.

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    This is NOT true.

    Prerequisits to be a Mason:

    * You must be a man of at least 21 years of age.
    * You must be of good moral character and have 3 people willing to vouch for this character.
    * You must believe in a surpreme being, a deity, not that the fraternity is a religion but that you have a steadfast belief in your faith.
    https://newjerseygrandlodge.org/static/become


    My lodge has 2 Jews, a majority of Christians (Catholics and Protestants by the way) 1 Hindu. Not sure about the rest actually but there is NO Christianity requirement. Please don't talk out of school if you don't 100% know or are a mason. This is exactly what gives Masons a bad name when misinformation and bad information are relegated as fact by those who do not know.
    When I became a Mason I distinctly remember being asked if I were a Christian. The question in on the application.

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When I became a Mason I distinctly remember being asked if I were a Christian. The question in on the application.
    If you said no they probably would have said well do you believe in one true God and that would have been it. I too know Jewish Free masons and a fellow whose family were followers of Ba'hai I knew in HS was the son of a freemason



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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    violence tends to be part and parcel of authoritarian collectivist regimes. fascists, trotskyites, marxists, shining path, maoists, nazis, stalinists might have different names but the end results tend to be about the same
    First of all there has never been a Trotskyst regime in existence so we can take that out. Fascists are considered by historians and political scientists to be conservatives as are Nazis. So how about this I'll admit that Mao and Stalin were leftists and were murderous scum who needed to be overthrown and that my side does hold responisbiy for them, but you need to admit that the Right has claim to Fascism, Nazism,radical religious extremism(which has killed far more than anything else in history)

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    violence tends to be part and parcel of authoritarian collectivist regimes. fascists, trotskyites, marxists, shining path, maoists, nazis, stalinists might have different names but the end results tend to be about the same
    As the US is none of the above it explains why Americans are so peaceful and why American foreign policy is a hallmark of non-violence. However, I just can't seem to understand why last year or the year before more human beings on the planet were killed or wounded violently by American hands than by any other nation on earth.










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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    As the US is none of the above it explains why Americans are so peaceful and why American foreign policy is a hallmark of non-violence. However, I just can't seem to understand why last year or the year before more human beings on the planet were killed or wounded violently by American hands than by any other nation on earth.


    Yeah America sucks.

    in many countries you'd be shot or worse for bashing dear leader



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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    violence tends to be part and parcel of authoritarian collectivist regimes. fascists, trotskyites, marxists, shining path, maoists, nazis, stalinists might have different names but the end results tend to be about the same
    The thing all those regimes share in common is that they're all authoritarian. Economically, they're all over the spectrum. You may be the exception to the rule, but conservatives tend to be a lot more authoritarian then liberals.
    For: legalizing drugs, gay marriage, abortion, guns, universal health care, public sector jobs, nuclear power, free education, progressive taxation
    Against: corporations, make-work, the 40 hour work week, intellectual property, imperialism, "homeland security," censorship

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yeah America sucks.

    in many countries you'd be shot or worse for bashing dear leader
    So, you're excusing the death we cause because other people are worse?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Anders Behring Breivik is a Illuminati-Freemason

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    The thing all those regimes share in common is that they're all authoritarian. Economically, they're all over the spectrum. You may be the exception to the rule, but conservatives tend to be a lot more authoritarian then liberals.
    I disagree. "liberals" (reactionary statist is a better concept IMHO) are collectivists meaning they believe in subordinating individuals to the "common good" especially in economic terms and in many areas of "rights" (banning guns or restricting them even though 99% of gun owners never commit crimes)
    Liberal authoritarianism is usually directed at those who have not done wrong or have not failed

    conservative authoritarianism tends to be either in social areas (gay rights for the bible thumpers) or directed to those presumed to be wrong doers-be it those who are law breakers or who are seen as failures

    I prefer a system that is hard on criminals and failures than one that punishes honest people and the successful



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