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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

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    They have to change what they value and what value they place upon what they value. I would hope they value doing business in America with the American people for a long long time and want a sustainable nation which can provide them with a worker base and a customer base and profits.

    I can say that is true at least at the company I worked at. However, we have to follow markets. When many manufacturers move to Asia then if you are selling stuff you have to sell into Asia versus the U.S.






    Sorry, but I do not want free trade. Fair trade - possibly. And I want the government to exercise its Constitutional powers given to it by the Founding Fathers in this regard.



    I would not completely disagree or completely agree. Immigration does hurt some of our workforce. Immigration does provide a necessary workforce for labor that American business will not pay American wages to.

    In my job with the Michigan state legislature, we recently looked at proposed legislation to cut down on migrants jobs in the state. They wanted to mandate contractors on state jobs to use the EVerify system and had a penalty of from $100 to $1,000.00 for a violation. Of course, a behind the scenes deal was made between its right wing sponsor and the Farm Bureau to exempt all agricultural jobs and then side deals made with the tourist businesses to exempt such jobs as hotel maids, cooks, waitresses and others. At the second committee hearing, the rep I work for proposed that we allow NO exemptions of any kind. He proposed that the law apply to ALL immigrants wanting to work in our state. He proposed a fine of $1,000 per day per worker who was not either a documented legal immigrant or one who had legal papers to work. He further added a criminal penalty for anyone who knowingly hired illegal workers.

    Do I have to tell you what the Republicans did next?
    Well on this issue I totally support what your rep tried to do. It seems crazy to me to exempt industries, especially in a state like Michigan where unemployment is so high. All folks are saying is that certain industries want a lower minimum wage. Perhaps that is a compromise your rep should consider. A slightly lower minimum wage in these industries might be a reasonable tardeoff.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

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    Perhaps you can go here and it will say much much more to you about it

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/econom...l-problem.html
    All you do is complain about what we are going to have to do.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

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    Who do you think is going to pay for the single payer healthcare system?
    The same people that pay for everything else in America. Why would health care be any different?
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

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    Who do you think is going to pay for the single payer healthcare system?
    The plan was... you. Thanks BTW
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    All you do is complain about what we are going to have to do.
    And you feel that is not important or we should us play ostrich and stick our heads in the sand and pretend these events are not happening and these proven trends have not take hold? Would you rather we play the smiling but dumb Pollyanna instead of the needed Cassandra only to find out too late that we are doomed as a great society whose glory days are in our past never to be recovered?

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Well on this issue I totally support what your rep tried to do. It seems crazy to me to exempt industries, especially in a state like Michigan where unemployment is so high. All folks are saying is that certain industries want a lower minimum wage. Perhaps that is a compromise your rep should consider. A slightly lower minimum wage in these industries might be a reasonable tardeoff.
    Thank you. I did play a role in it ... even be it a minor one.

    I have seen no such suggestion for a different minimum wage although anything can and probably will happen so I will keep you informed.
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    labor is a commodity
    It depends what type of labor. There are blue collar jobs that you wouldnt know how to perform unless you had a heck of a lot of schooling / training.
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The same people that pay for everything else in America. Why would health care be any different?
    What is amazing to me is folks don't realize we actually penalize companies for providing health care to their employees. That is a cost that they bear that some of their competitors may refuse to pay.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    It depends what type of labor. There are blue collar jobs that you wouldnt know how to perform unless you had a heck of a lot of schooling / training.
    labor is a commodity no matter the quality you look to hire be it brain surgeons for a hospital or bed pan changers



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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And you feel that is not important or we should us play ostrich and stick our heads in the sand and pretend these events are not happening and these proven trends have not take hold? Would you rather we play the smiling but dumb Pollyanna instead of the needed Cassandra only to find out too late that we are doomed as a great society whose glory days are in our past never to be recovered?

    I chose a different path thank you.
    Yes, you complain about what we simply have to do. The problem lies with Wall Street's belief that inflation must happen. It doesn't.

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