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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    1. Get rid of at least half of our aircraft carriers, and a similar number of other ships.
    2. Get rid of all our strategic bombers.
    3. Get rid of the majority of our tanks and heavy combat vehicles.
    4. Get rid of all our nuclear bombs and land based ICBM's, and around half of our sea based ones.
    5. Kill the Joint Strike Fighter project, and majorly cut the size of our airforce. Phase out the older planes.
    6. Cut the size of our army. Increase the size of our special forces to compensate.
    7. Get rid of nearly all oversea military bases. Keep a couple in Japan and South Korea, and also in the Middle East.
    8. Have a general redesign of weapons to make things more cost effective.

    There you go. I just shaved at least half off the military budget, and probably a good deal more.
    Does the word, "deterrent", mean anything?

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Who, precisely, should we be going on the offensive with?
    The Islamofacists, for starters; and anyone else that wants to start ****.

    Don't ever think that geography is going to protect us 100%.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, you're freedom and liberty will never go away, unless you and the rest of the Libbos have your way.

    "Libbos"

    feeble intellectually sophomoric attempt at insult.

    grow up dude.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, you're freedom and liberty will never go away, unless you and the rest of the Libbos have your way.
    Aside from American Exceptionalism do you have any evidence that we are any more free than most of Europe? I would argue we are lose free. We have the Patriot Act which pretty much shreds the 4th amendment, we have the war on drugs,we have the highest incarnation rate in the world. 5% of the worlds population lives in the U.S. yet a quarter of the world's prisoners are in U.S. prisons.(United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) So how are we the most free nation on earth?

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Aside from American Exceptionalism do you have any evidence that we are any more free than most of Europe? I would argue we are lose free. We have the Patriot Act which pretty much shreds the 4th amendment, we have the war on drugs,we have the highest incarnation rate in the world. 5% of the worlds population lives in the U.S. yet a quarter of the world's prisoners are in U.S. prisons.(United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) So how are we the most free nation on earth?

    hell yeah! I can own land; guns; hunt and fish like I want; drive whatever vehicle I want--for now; work where i want; start my own business; I'm not bound by a class system. The list goes on.

    Those clowns that are prison, are in prison by their own choice. That's a piss poor example of how we're not free.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does the word, "deterrent", mean anything?
    If I bash you over the head with a baseball bat and you die, are you any less dead than if I fire 500 rounds from a .50 caliber machine gun? If I hit your country with 50 nuclear missiles, is it any less obliterated than if I hit it with 1000 nuclear missiles? Think about it.
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    hell yeah! I can own land; guns; hunt and fish like I want; drive whatever vehicle I want--for now; work where i want; start my own business; I'm not bound by a class system. The list goes on.

    Those clowns that are prison, are in prison by their own choice. That's a piss poor example of how we're not free.
    You're right! I can smoke weed if I want, or go to a prostitute, or get married to someone of the same sex, or fly without being hassled by the government, and there's absolutely no danger of my phone conversations being randomly wiretapped.
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Islamofacists, for starters; and anyone else that wants to start ****.

    Don't ever think that geography is going to protect us 100%.
    Uh huh. And is the correct way to do that to invade the **** out of their country with tanks and bombers and ****?
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    hell yeah! I can own land; guns; hunt and fish like I want; drive whatever vehicle I want--for now; work where i want; start my own business; I'm not bound by a class system. The list goes on.

    Those clowns that are prison, are in prison by their own choice. That's a piss poor example of how we're not free.
    You can own land in Europe,you can own guns in many countries,you can hunt and fish, you can drive a car, you can work where you want and start your own business. Yes, you are bound by a class system. It isn't instituted by law,but it's there and most European nations have much more upward mobility than we do.

    Speaking of being free a lot of those "clowns" in prison are there becuase they smoked weed, something you can do in Europe, but not here. So who is more free again? Oh and you still haven't addressed the Patriot Act.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does the word, "deterrent", mean anything?
    Actually some of his points are valid. Why do we need strategic bombers anymore?

    And we don't have land based ICBMs for the most part. Those don't make sense anymore. Basically one OHIO class has enough power to decimate any nation on the planet. Furthermore, non-state actors are not afraid of nukes in the same way nations are.

    He's wrong on the JSF though as we do need to replace fighters. But the overruns are outrageous. Cost plus is evil.

    And cutting down on bases would save money and earn alot of good will.

    His last point is dead on the money. Gates was pushing just that.
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