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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Sout Korea actually pays for us to be there:

    The latest Special Measures Agreement would begin in January and calls for South Korea to pay 760 billion won, or $585.4 million, in 2009 toward the cost of keeping 28,500 U.S. troops in the country, according to South Korean and U.S. foreign ministry officials.
    But by 2011, the Korean payments for construction would be in goods and services, according to an official at South Korea’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade. Costs of Korean labor and munitions support on the U.S. bases would continue to be paid in cash, he said.


    S. Korean security payments shift - News - Stripes
    That is all good and well, but that doesn't address all the other military bases we have around the world, the massive amount of money we spend on the Pentagon and MIC, the cost of our three wars. According to the Harvard Kennedy School of Government the cost of the Iraq war alone is 3 trillion dollars. That was in 2008. Harvard Kennedy School - The True Cost of the Iraq War: $3 Trillion and Beyond

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    That is all good and well, but that doesn't address all the other military bases we have around the world, the massive amount of money we spend on the Pentagon and MIC, the cost of our three wars. According to the Harvard Kennedy School of Government the cost of the Iraq war alone is 3 trillion dollars. That was in 2008. Harvard Kennedy School - The True Cost of the Iraq War: $3 Trillion and Beyond

    Yep I'm in agreement. It is a great expenditure with little to no return at best.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Yep I'm in agreement. It is a great expenditure with little to no return at best.
    When you wake up tomorrow in the freest nation in the world, you'll see the return on the investment.

    You're welcome.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    I'll let someone who was far more knowledgeable about this than me speak on the problems of such military spending:‪Hanging from a Cross of Iron‬‏ - YouTube
    It's a bit outdated, but I doubt the costs are any better now.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When you wake up tomorrow in the freest nation in the world, you'll see the return on the investment.

    You're welcome.

    Yes I know the debt racked up will still be there tomorrow and years to come.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When you wake up tomorrow in the freest nation in the world, you'll see the return on the investment.

    You're welcome.
    Really? freest(is that word or should it be most free?) nation in the world? The MIC hasn't freed us. We are less free than many European nations. Does the Patriot Act ring any bells?
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's no way we can cut military spending by half. It's totally unrealistic.
    1. Get rid of at least half of our aircraft carriers, and a similar number of other ships.
    2. Get rid of all our strategic bombers.
    3. Get rid of the majority of our tanks and heavy combat vehicles.
    4. Get rid of all our nuclear bombs and land based ICBM's, and around half of our sea based ones.
    5. Kill the Joint Strike Fighter project, and majorly cut the size of our airforce. Phase out the older planes.
    6. Cut the size of our army. Increase the size of our special forces to compensate.
    7. Get rid of nearly all oversea military bases. Keep a couple in Japan and South Korea, and also in the Middle East.
    8. Have a general redesign of weapons to make things more cost effective.

    There you go. I just shaved at least half off the military budget, and probably a good deal more.
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I feel that the best defense, is a good offense. History has proven me correct.

    As far as spending money such as Blackwater, yes, I think the military should have some fat trimmed off of it. However, when the Pentagon starts trimming fat, it's the enlisted man that gets cut the deepest and that's why I think that military cuts should be as shallow as possible. Everytime we've cut our military down to a skeleton crew, it's come back to haunt us.
    Who, precisely, should we be going on the offensive with?
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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Yes I know the debt racked up will still be there tomorrow and years to come.
    But, you're freedom and liberty will never go away, unless you and the rest of the Libbos have your way.

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    Re: Profits soar amid mass layoffs

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Really? freest(is that word or should it be most free?)
    yes, I do believe it is a word.

    fre·est   
    [free-ist] Show IPA
    –adjective
    superlative of free.


    The MIC hasn't freed us. We are less free than many European nations. Does the Patriot Act ring any bells?
    You can't even fart too loud in Europe without breaking the law. So, no, they're not more free than we are.

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