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Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

LOL! You didn't even have to ask. :sun
I think once people realize just how nice it is to have a couple of hundred thousand less busybodies bullying them this idea of reducing the size of the federal government is going to get really popular with the people who make the country work. Liberals, on the other hand are just not going to know what to do.
 
Makes sense to me!
 
Why dont I see such histrionics and blame-gamin over on the thread where the Senate didnt even open debate on CCB? They voted, but not to open debate on the bill. They didnt talk about it, they didnt examine it--they tabled it. Now, whose fault do you suppose that is?
 
Why dont I see such histrionics and blame-gamin over on the thread where the Senate didnt even open debate on CCB? They voted, but not to open debate on the bill. They didnt talk about it, they didnt examine it--they tabled it. Now, whose fault do you suppose that is?

It's the republicans' fault
 
Its republicans fault that democrats in the Senate tabled a bill on an entirely partisan vote?
 
No. Your statement, like most of what you post, is nonsensical. If its so terrible, the Senate should not be afraid to debate it and vote on it and be on the record.
 
Latest:

"From the markets' point of view, a two-stage plan is a non-starter because we now know it is amateur hour on Capitol Hill and we don't want to be painted in this corner again," said Christian Cooper, head of U.S. dollar derivatives trading in New York at Jefferies & Co.

"There is significant risk of a downgrade with a deal that ties further cuts to another vote only a few months down the road given the significant resistance to do the right thing now," Cooper said.

Against the euro, the dollar declined to $1.4384 in early trading, from $1.4360 late on July 22. It fell to 78.13 yen from 78.54. Futures on the Standard & Poor's 500 Index, the benchmark measure of U.S. equities, begin trading at 6 p.m. New York time today.


Read more: Republicans Weigh Short-Term Debt Deal, Risking Obama Veto
 
The chorus describes the markets, come Monday.

 
The chorus describes the markets, come Monday.
Nothing bad is going to happen. But a great deal of good just might. The government won't be able to borrow any more money to grow even bigger. There will have to be fewer highly paid bureaucrats in extra-constitutional departments. And that is a very good thing.
 
Nothing bad is going to happen. But a great deal of good just might. The government won't be able to borrow any more money to grow even bigger. There will have to be fewer highly paid bureaucrats in extra-constitutional departments. And that is a very good thing.

the extra cost of having a lower credit rating is the equivalent of a massive tax increase. that isn't "bad?"
 
the extra cost of having a lower credit rating is the equivalent of a massive tax increase. that isn't "bad?"
I don't believe that is going to happen either. I do believe there are plenty of people on the left who want to scare you into giving up still more of your lives and your freedom. This time, let's just walk away and see what happens.
 
I don't believe that is going to happen either. I do believe there are plenty of people on the left who want to scare you into giving up still more of your lives and your freedom. This time, let's just walk away and see what happens.

what evidence do you have that leads you to believe that the credit downgrade won't happen?
 
what evidence do you have that leads you to believe that the credit downgrade won't happen?
Why none of course. What evidence do you have that it will occur?
The right answer is "None." So we will just have to wait and see.
 
i don't believe that Moody's is kidding.
 
I can't believe that anybody believes Moody's is kidding.
Kidding?NO. Applying pressure to keep the spending high? Yes.

Walk away Republicans. Only go back when the one term Marxist president Obama has a written plan.
 
No. Your statement, like most of what you post, is nonsensical. If its so terrible, the Senate should not be afraid to debate it and vote on it and be on the record.

No, your statement was nonsensical. If it's so terrible, the senate is under no obligation to waste its' time on it.
 
I don't believe that is going to happen either. I do believe there are plenty of people on the left who want to scare you into giving up still more of your lives and your freedom. This time, let's just walk away and see what happens.

Because peoples' credit rating always goes up after they stop paying their bills :roll:
 
I can't believe that anybody believes Moody's is kidding.

It isn't just Moody's either. S&P has also warned of a credit downgrade.
 
Because peoples' credit rating always goes up after they stop paying their bills :roll:
Do you think the US will stop paying its bills if the one term Marxist president Obama does not get more tax money and the opportunity to borrow trillions more?
 
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