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Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

Gill said:
Most of those below the poverty line in this country would be considered very well off in many others. Most below the poverty line here have a house full of electronic gadgets including cable tv, cell phones, and internet service.
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yesterday: dept of energy survey based on census data

What is poverty? Americans might well be surprised to learn from other government data that the overwhelming majority of those defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau were well-housed and adequately fed even in the recession year 2009. About 4 percent of them did temporarily become homeless.

Data from the Department of Energy and other agencies show that the average poor family, as defined by Census officials:

Lives in a home that is in good repair, not crowded, and equipped with air conditioning, clothes washer and dryer, and cable or satellite TV service.

Prepares meals in a kitchen with a refrigerator, coffee maker and microwave as well as oven and stove.

Enjoys two color TVs, a DVD player, VCR and — if children are there — an Xbox, PlayStation, or other video game system.

Had enough money in the past year to meet essential needs, including adequate food and medical care.
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Modern Poverty Includes A.C. and an Xbox - By Ken McIntyre - The Corner - National Review Online

some notes:

98% of americans below the poverty line have a tv, 81% have a microwave, 78% air conditioning, 71% a vcr, 65% a second tv, 65% a dvd, 64% cable, 62% washer, 60% cordless phone, 55% cellphone, 53% ceiling fan...

less than 50%---personal computer 38%, third tv 32%, internet 29%, video game system 29%, printer 28%, 2nd vcr 28%, dishwasher 25%, big screen tv 18%

fyi
 
sangha said:
They will pay their taxes too.
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So, it's not really taxes on the rich. It's taxes on people that you think make more money than they should.

How much was your tax bill for 2010?
 
sangha said:
So now you're changing your whine from non-profits tax exempt status to what those non-profits spend their money on. And the 1st amend most certainly does protect religious orgs from being taxed.
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Oh really? Where does it say that?
 
apdst said:
So, it's not really taxes on the rich. It's taxes on people that you think make more money than they should.

How much was your tax bill for 2010?
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No, it's taxes on income above a certain amount.
 
sangha said:
No, it's taxes on income above a certain amount.
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And, that certain amount is $200,000. All we hear from the Libbos is raising taxes on the, "millionaires and billionaires". Last time I checked, a person that makes 200 grand isn't a, "millionaire", or a, "billionaire".

How much money do you make? Will your taxes go up?
 
sangha said:
And the dems in Congress cut taxes.
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they sure did

just about a month after tsunami tuesday, the day the gop won more house seats than any party since 1938, the most state reps and assemblies in history, 10 gubs and 6 senators

i wonder how that happened

Maybe you forgot about that
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LOL!
 
sangha said:
So much for the rights support of the first amendment
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tax breaks---subsidies---for cair, media matters and pp...

free speech, baby!

LOL!
 
apdst said:
And, that certain amount is $200,000. All we hear from the Libbos is raising taxes on the, "millionaires and billionaires". Last time I checked, a person that makes 200 grand isn't a, "millionaire", or a, "billionaire".

How much money do you make? Will your taxes go up?
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People with incomes far less that 200k pay income taxes. And you never heard me say that we should raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires.
 
sangha said:
People with incomes far less that 200k pay income taxes. And you never heard me say that we should raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires.
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So, we shouldn't raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires?
 
sangha said:
It's one sentence long. Can't you read it yourself?
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I have read it. No where does it say that religious groups are tax exempt.

It sure as hell doesn't say that Media Matters should be tax exempt.
 
sangha said:
Because, when the wealthy have so much money and power, the politicians can be paid/bribed to ignore the will of the people.
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Obama biggest recipient of BP cash - Erika Lovley - POLITICO.com

U.S. exempted BP's Gulf of Mexico drilling from environmental impact study

Dodd and Obama Top Recipients of AIG Cash | abc7news.com

Dodd vs. Treasury: Who Is Responsible for AIG Loophole? - ABC News

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/07/geithners-new-york-fed-to_n_414449.html

Barack Obama largest recipient of political funds from mortgage giants Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae - latimes.com

Sweeping reform, but not for Freddie, Fannie - Business - Eye on the Economy - msnbc.com

This is just one more reason why we should tax the rich
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before we hang em, of course
 
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apdst said:
I have read it. No where does it say that religious groups are tax exempt.

It sure as hell doesn't say that Media Matters should be tax exempt.
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It's not my fault you don't understand what the 1st Amend means
 
Boo Radley said:
A friend of mind (LOL!) here at the school calls it the Mexicization of America, in which we bring workers here to the level of the worker in Mexico. He maintains that only that will ever bring corporations that choose to leave here back.
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american workers are overpaid, is that what your friend is suggesting

is your friend a deep thinker

i wonder what should govt do about it

California budget: Democrats pass austerity budget - Los Angeles Times

Cuomo budget: $10 billion deficit cut, no new taxes, layoffs likely

Jerry Brown Budget Cuts | California budget: Gov. Jerry Brown approves cuts to services for poor, sick and elderly - Los Angeles Times

MA House votes to restrict unions - Boston.com

New Jersey Assembly Passes Bill That Requires Public Workers' Unions To Pay More For Benefits - WPIX

Emanuel Unveils Major Budget Cut On First Full Day « CBS Chicago

Governor Pat Quinn signs Illinois education reform bill into law, new rules effect school days, teacher strikes, tenure | abc7chicago.com

Detroit Moves Against Unions - WSJ.com

Union Deal Defeated; Gov. Malloy Pledges To Cut State Workers - CTnow

Rahm Emanuel sends layoff notices to city workers in union showdown - Chicago Sun-Times
 
sangha said:
It's not my fault you don't understand what the 1st Amend means
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So, "Freedom of Religion", means that religious orgs and Media Matters don't have to pay taxes?
 
sangha said:
Why do you want to know?
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Just wondering if your taxes are going up with the tax hikes that you insist we have, or are you just talking about other peoples's money?
 
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