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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because, when the wealthy have so much money and power, the politicians can be paid/bribed to ignore the will of the people. This is just one more reason why we should tax the rich
    What about the folks who will be taxed more, who aren't rich?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Actually, opperating on the assumption that the will of the public is the same today as it was then is likely a false assumption. It is quite likley that back then, when democrats were in power, the feelign was different, and the need for taxes less clear.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No where in the 1st Amendment does it say that my tax dollars have to be pissed away on abortions, or that religious groups, who have obvious political sways, should be tax exempt.
    So now you're changing your whine from non-profits tax exempt status to what those non-profits spend their money on. And the 1st amend most certainly does protect religious orgs from being taxed.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What about the folks who will be taxed more, who aren't rich?
    They will pay their taxes too.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, opperating on the assumption that the will of the public is the same today as it was then is likely a false assumption. It is quite likley that back then, when democrats were in power, the feelign was different, and the need for taxes less clear.
    I seriously doubt that the people are willing to raise taxes any more than they were 8 months ago.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Most of those below the poverty line in this country would be considered very well off in many others. Most below the poverty line here have a house full of electronic gadgets including cable tv, cell phones, and internet service.
    yesterday: dept of energy survey based on census data

    What is poverty? Americans might well be surprised to learn from other government data that the overwhelming majority of those defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau were well-housed and adequately fed even in the recession year 2009. About 4 percent of them did temporarily become homeless.

    Data from the Department of Energy and other agencies show that the average poor family, as defined by Census officials:

    Lives in a home that is in good repair, not crowded, and equipped with air conditioning, clothes washer and dryer, and cable or satellite TV service.

    Prepares meals in a kitchen with a refrigerator, coffee maker and microwave as well as oven and stove.

    Enjoys two color TVs, a DVD player, VCR and — if children are there — an Xbox, PlayStation, or other video game system.

    Had enough money in the past year to meet essential needs, including adequate food and medical care.
    Modern Poverty Includes A.C. and an Xbox - By Ken McIntyre - The Corner - National Review Online

    some notes:

    98% of americans below the poverty line have a tv, 81% have a microwave, 78% air conditioning, 71% a vcr, 65% a second tv, 65% a dvd, 64% cable, 62% washer, 60% cordless phone, 55% cellphone, 53% ceiling fan...

    less than 50%---personal computer 38%, third tv 32%, internet 29%, video game system 29%, printer 28%, 2nd vcr 28%, dishwasher 25%, big screen tv 18%

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They will pay their taxes too.
    So, it's not really taxes on the rich. It's taxes on people that you think make more money than they should.

    How much was your tax bill for 2010?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So now you're changing your whine from non-profits tax exempt status to what those non-profits spend their money on. And the 1st amend most certainly does protect religious orgs from being taxed.
    Oh really? Where does it say that?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I seriously doubt that the people are willing to raise taxes any more than they were 8 months ago.
    I don'tknow about 8 months ago, but right now, people are willing to raise taxes

    19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases To Cut Deficit
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I don'tknow about 8 months ago, but right now, people are willing to raise taxes

    19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases To Cut Deficit
    Are those the same polls the Libbos were using last year to insist that people wanted taxes raised?

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