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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Why? The majority supports medical marijuana, and the dems are passing that. And the dems in Congress cut taxes. Maybe you forgot about that
    You totally missed my point.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    And the only reason he agreed to TEMPORARILY extend the Bush tax cuts was to reach a deal with Repubs
    LOL!

    he had SIXTY senators for a year, he had a 78 seat cushion downstairs

    So, it's a bit disingenuous to say that the president is against raising taxes.
    yup, he's a coward

    what's he so scared of

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have a better idea. We could stop wasting money on such crap as training poor people to perform non-existant green jobs and after all that waste is taken care of, then we can see if there is still a need to raise taxes.
    I've got an even better idea. We could stop wasting money on faith-based programs, our bloated military, subsidies for big business, tax deductions for private jets, The TSA and HSA, and allow Medicare D negotiate for better drug prices; then we can see about cutting the social safety net
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

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    You totally missed my point.
    I totally destroyed your point
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    The federal government's financial condition deteriorated rapidly last year, far beyond the $1.5 trillion in new debt taken on to finance the budget deficit, a USA TODAY analysis shows.

    The government added $5.3 trillion in new financial obligations in 2010, largely for retirement programs such as Medicare and Social Security. That brings to a record $61.6 trillion the total of financial promises not paid for.

    This gap between spending commitments and revenue last year equals more than one-third of the nation's gross domestic product.

    Medicare alone took on $1.8 trillion in new liabilities, more than the record deficit prompting heated debate between Congress and the White House over lifting the debt ceiling.

    Social Security added $1.4 trillion in obligations, partly reflecting longer life expectancies. Federal and military retirement programs added more to the financial hole, too.
    61.6T, growing 5.3 per year

    trying to address THAT tsunami with tax revenues is like SPITTING in an OCEAN

    if fundamental restucturing of our budgets is not undertaken immediately, then our big three federal programs (and state pensions too) will go pfft for our next generation

    spin, anyone?

    leadership?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've got an even better idea. We could stop wasting money on faith-based programs, our bloated military, subsidies for big business, tax deductions for private jets, The TSA and HSA, and allow Medicare D negotiate for better drug prices; then we can see about cutting the social safety net

    Sure. I have no problem with that. We could also take away tax exemptions from orgs like CAIR, Media Matters and Planned Parenthood, along with no telling how many other bull**** 501c groups there are in the country.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I totally destroyed your point
    My point is: if the will of the people is to raise taxes, then why didn't the Dems do it when they were running the whole show?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure. I have no problem with that. We could also take away tax exemptions from orgs like CAIR, Media Matters and Planned Parenthood, along with no telling how many other bull**** 501c groups there are in the country.
    So much for the rights support of the first amendment
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My point is: if the will of the people is to raise taxes, then why didn't the Dems do it when they were running the whole show?
    Because, when the wealthy have so much money and power, the politicians can be paid/bribed to ignore the will of the people. This is just one more reason why we should tax the rich
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So much for the rights support of the first amendment
    No where in the 1st Amendment does it say that my tax dollars have to be pissed away on abortions, or that religious groups, who have obvious political sways, should be tax exempt.

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