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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The rightwingers just are not intelligent enough to realize that this could be done. Instead, they kept agreeing to pass tax increases in return for a promise of future spending cuts. And now they want to blame their ineptitude on others. And the boobs think this qualifies them to run the economy :crazy:
    Perhaps our earlier error was believing we were dealing with honorable people. But we were dealing with Democrats. I concede your point. We should have known we were dealing with scoundrels, liars and plunderers.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Oh yeh! That's why there was not one net new job created during the Great GWSnotForBrains Depression and tenure. 8 years of tax cuts and no jobs. What kind of proof do you need that the tax cuts just made the rich a bit richer. It allowed them to move their factories and equipment to China, as far as I can tell. How 'bout them jobs there in Alabammy.?? Your quote on economic activity must be part of a more serious delusion, don't you think?

    that's a great rant. not much validity but a great rant. BDS of the top drawer. Tax cuts don't make the rich richer. It means the government makes the rich less poor



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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yeah!



    Quandary:



    Through Bush-Colored Glasses - New York Times
    I selected a source hostile to President Bush just for fun.

    What were the causes of the Recession? I believe the most important cause was the destruction done to our mortgage lending industries by Congressional Democrats like Frank and Dodd. Here are a few quotes:








    And on it went to collapse. Of course Democrats will want to blame Bush as often as possible.
    Yes indeedy, when you use a siphon hose to tap a septic tank, the results are predictable, as you certainly must now know. The Great GWSoupForBrains Depression is wholly owned by you and yours, the ones who supported his policies of ignorance, incompetence, corruption, greed, war, mayhem, torture, and lies.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Yes indeedy, when you use a siphon hose to tap a septic tank, the results are predictable, as you certainly must now know. The Great GWSoupForBrains Depression is wholly owned by you and yours, the ones who supported his policies of ignorance, incompetence, corruption, greed, war, mayhem, torture, and lies.
    Absolutely amazing how many people have so much time invested in the hatred of GW Bush and so little understanding of what he actually accomplished positively. None of that really matters today other than allowing liberals to divert from the problems we have today and the total disaster Obama has been for this country and our economy. Guess people who want a nanny state are getting their wish and people who need a massive Federal Govt. to protect them from themself are getting exactly what they wanted. The classware and total economics and civic ignorance is staggering on the part of those who continue to support Obama. Democrats controlled the Senate 2001-2002 and the Congress 2007-2008 but it is Bush's fault for everything that happened, yet today 2 1/2 years after taking office Obama still isn't responsible for the results. Absolutely staggering logic on the part of Obama supporters.

    Notice these are 2011 results!! Recession ended June 2009

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Your metaphor fails you.
    Lowering tax rates permanently increases economic activity. That in turn increases tax revenues.
    Is that why the bush* tax cuts destroyed millions of jobs?

    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/...ord-on-record/
    Last edited by sangha; 08-14-11 at 01:20 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Aw, great, another person who buys the media spin and leftwing rhetoric but ignores the Obama results. These are the results you support

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
    Aw, great, another person who buys the media spin and rightwing rhetoric but ignores the bsuh* results. These are the results you support

    bush* economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have caused our credit downgraded
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Perhaps our earlier error was believing we were dealing with honorable people. But we were dealing with Democrats. I concede your point. We should have known we were dealing with scoundrels, liars and plunderers.
    And the rightwing boobs believed that bush* and the republicans would also cut spending, and you believed their lies too.

    And the rightwing boobs think this qualifies them to run the economy :crazy:
    Last edited by sangha; 08-14-11 at 01:25 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Absolutely amazing how many people have so much time invested in the hatred of GW Bush and so little understanding of what he actually accomplished positively. None of that really matters today other than allowing liberals to divert from the problems we have today and the total disaster Obama has been for this country and our economy. Guess people who want a nanny state are getting their wish and people who need a massive Federal Govt. to protect them from themself are getting exactly what they wanted. The classware and total economics and civic ignorance is staggering on the part of those who continue to support Obama. Democrats controlled the Senate 2001-2002 and the Congress 2007-2008 but it is Bush's fault for everything that happened, yet today 2 1/2 years after taking office Obama still isn't responsible for the results. Absolutely staggering logic on the part of Obama supporters.

    Notice these are 2011 results!! Recession ended June 2009
    Absolutely amazing how many people have so much time invested in the hatred of Obama and so little understanding of what he actually accomplished positively. None of that really matters today other than allowing wingnuts to divert from the problems we have today and the total disaster bush* has been for this country and our economy. Guess the rightwingers who want a nanny state are getting their wish and people who need a massive Federal Govt. to protect them from themself are getting exactly what they wanted. The classware and total economics and civic ignorance is staggering on the part of those who continue to support bsuh*. Republicans controlled the rthe house and the senate but it is Obamas' fault for everything that happened, yet Obama still is responsible for the results. Absolutely staggering logic on the part of teabagging bush* supporters.

    bush* economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have caused our credit downgrad
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Absolutely amazing how many people have so much time invested in the hatred of Obama and so little understanding of what he actually accomplished positively. None of that really matters today other than allowing wingnuts to divert from the problems we have today and the total disaster bush* has been for this country and our economy. Guess the rightwingers who want a nanny state are getting their wish and people who need a massive Federal Govt. to protect them from themself are getting exactly what they wanted. The classware and total economics and civic ignorance is staggering on the part of those who continue to support bsuh*. Republicans controlled the rthe house and the senate but it is Obamas' fault for everything that happened, yet Obama still is responsible for the results. Absolutely staggering logic on the part of teabagging bush* supporters.

    bush* economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have caused our credit downgrad
    Sangha, you ever take another of my posts and change the words in it I will do what I have never done before, report you and do my best to get you kicked out of the thread.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Yes indeedy, when you use a siphon hose to tap a septic tank, the results are predictable, as you certainly must now know. The Great GWSoupForBrains Depression is wholly owned by you and yours, the ones who supported his policies of ignorance, incompetence, corruption, greed, war, mayhem, torture, and lies.
    Perhaps you believe you are being clever. Or perhaps not.

    Hoax and Chains, er, Hope and Change, are nice slogans. But they are no longer working with a population that has been forced to pay attention to the daily ramblings of the one term Marxist president Obama. They don't like what they see. The nicest part is that you don't even see your defeat coming.

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