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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Stawman....... post a link of anyone denying they inherited the original small company from their father.

    That was not the point of my post and you know it. You claimed that Koch was somehow in bed with Stalin. In actuality, as I've proven, he hated him.

    Your concession is noted.
    It's in the link YOU posted. Did you read it all? Or did you stop once you got something you thought was useful?

    And Koch didn't hate Stalin until AFTER Stalin started turning on the engineers. Before that, Koch loved him his Stalin
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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, when the govt buys stuff, the are distorting the market by increasing demand for that product, which increases the price for that product. The seller makes more money on what it sells to the govt *and* receives more money for the same product when it sell to buyers other than the govt. It's basically a price support mechanism, not a free market one.
    Ahhh, got it. You believe the government should never buy anything.

    Let me know how that works when the interstate highway in your area falls apart and the feds can't fix it.

    Let me know how that works when the federal courthouse in your area starts falling down and the government can't fix it.

    Let me know how it works when mothers with children can't feed them because you don't want the government to buy food to hand out to them.

    You are making a bigger fool of yourself with every post.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's in the link YOU posted. Did you read it all? Or did you stop once you got something you thought was useful?

    And Koch didn't hate Stalin until AFTER Stalin started turning on the engineers. Before that, Koch loved him his Stalin
    Really??? Where exactly does it say that Koch "loved" Stalin until the engineers were purged ???

    I'll be waiting.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahhh, got it. You believe the government should never buy anything.

    Let me know how that works when the interstate highway in your area falls apart and the feds can't fix it.

    Let me know how that works when the federal courthouse in your area starts falling down and the government can't fix it.

    Let me know how it works when mothers with children can't feed them because you don't want the government to buy food to hand out to them.

    You are making a bigger fool of yourself with every post.
    Another straw man. Regardless of my opinion on the govts role in the economy, the FACT remains that the Kochs are the recipients of large amounts of govt handouts, and they got their start through an inheritance, which shows that their wealth is not the product of their hard work. Maybe you've forgotten that was the point I was making in your eagerness to defend the Kochs
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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Really??? Where exactly does it say that Koch "loved" Stalin until the engineers were purged ???

    I'll be waiting.
    In one of the lnks I posted.
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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It takes two to make a business transaction. And as I said before, you are once again creating a straw man. It doesn't matter who is at fault. It still shows that the Kochs are the recipients of govt largesse.

    And now, you have added another straw man that I support all govt activities. That makes five straw men
    You lie. I never said that you support all government activities. You are going from silly to ridiculous.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In one of the lnks I posted.
    That's funny. You posted that it was in the link I posted. You even capitalized "YOU".

    Reading comprehension problem acting up again ??

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Another straw man. Regardless of my opinion on the govts role in the economy, the FACT remains that the Kochs are the recipients of large amounts of govt handouts, and they got their start through an inheritance, which shows that their wealth is not the product of their hard work. Maybe you've forgotten that was the point I was making in your eagerness to defend the Kochs
    So now you are withdrawing your claim that all government purchases are handouts ???

    You must be a liberal since you flip flop so much.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    You lie. I never said that you support all government activities. You are going from silly to ridiculous.
    That is clearly what you implied, And while you're doing that, Gill is suggesting I think the govt should not buy anything.

    I am surprised that a big government person, such as yourself, would want to blame the government so much.
    Even if I were a "big govt person", I see no reason why you think I would support these handouts unless you think I support anything the govt does
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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And again, you misconstrue the argument in order to disagree. Regardless of whose fault it is, the fact remains that their wealth is the result of govt handouts, and not their hard work

    That makes three times. Will you ever address the point I'm actually making, or will you continue with the straw men?
    Your "point" is so silly that refuting comes from your own postings.

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