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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I'm pretty sure that the media was not checking with people who were not part of Congress about other times of lifting the debt ceiling. Most conservatives have never, ever thought that there should be a need to raise the debt ceiling.
    I'm pretty sure that you're wrong.

    And those "conservatives" sat silent while the debt ceiling was raised more than two dozen times. If they didn't think there was a need to raise the debt ceiling, it's because they're ignorant fools who are easily manipulated.
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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm pretty sure that you're wrong.

    And those "conservatives" sat silent while the debt ceiling was raised more than two dozen times. If they didn't think there was a need to raise the debt ceiling, it's because they're ignorant fools who are easily manipulated.
    This is too nonsensical. Do you think the media would cover me or you if we said went to them denouncing [in your casing loving] the deficits and the debt. Get real!

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    They got their money the old fashioned way: they inherited it.
    true, but they increased the companies' worth thousands of times over since they took over almost 30 years ago. They didn't exactly inherit the money and the company, then sit back and do nothing.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    true, but they increased the companies' worth thousands of times over since they took over almost 30 years ago. They didn't exactly inherit the money and the company, then sit back and do nothing.
    That's true. But they didn't exactly pull themselves up from their bootstraps, either.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's true. But they didn't exactly pull themselves up from their bootstraps, either.
    True, but irrelevant.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    True, but irrelevant.
    No, it's not irrelevant. One can roll up a pretty good fortune over 30 years simply by compounding the interest on a nice inheritance. Takes money to make money and all that.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, it's not irrelevant. One can roll up a pretty good fortune over 30 years simply by compounding the interest on a nice inheritance. Takes money to make money and all that.
    If you have any information claiming that the Koch brothers sit around and play no active part in the management of their various corporations, I'd love to see it.

    From everything I've read about them, they play a very active role in their many companies.

    Unless you have information that they have not dramatically increased the value of the companies, your retort is irrelevant.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    If you have any information claiming that the Koch brothers sit around and play no active part in the management of their various corporations, I'd love to see it.

    From everything I've read about them, they play a very active role in their many companies.

    Unless you have information that they have not dramatically increased the value of the companies, your retort is irrelevant.
    I have never claimed that they didn't help grow the company. I'm simply pointing out that it's a lot easier to grow a decent-sized company that you've inherited from your father than it is to make it on your own. Do you disagree?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    This is too nonsensical. Do you think the media would cover me or you if we said went to them denouncing [in your casing loving] the deficits and the debt. Get real!
    You alone? No

    But thanks for proving that there were so few "consevatives" complaining about the debt ceiling...at least until a dem was in the white house
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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    true, but they increased the companies' worth thousands of times over since they took over almost 30 years ago. They didn't exactly inherit the money and the company, then sit back and do nothing.
    You mean like the execs at Lehman Bros?
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